| 14 May 2025 |
 Steven Keuchel | And you build those through cross compilation or do you want to build them on the device? | 09:02:25 |
 Alyssa Ross | Native | 09:03:01 |
 fgaz | * then vf2 is 100% the way to go at the moment ah right native compilation | 09:04:13 |
| Alyssa Ross | (I know it will be very slow, that's fine) | 09:05:06 |
| fgaz | the "low" amount of RAM is also a problem for some packages, but a bit of swap is enough to compensate in my experience | 09:07:51 |
| fgaz | unless you want to build a browser | 09:07:54 |
| Alyssa Ross | I would ideally like Firefox but I can live without it | 09:08:38 |
| Alyssa Ross | Apart from that I don't think there's anything particularly big | 09:08:52 |
| Steven Keuchel | if mainline is a requirement then the vf2 is probably still the best option | 09:09:14 |
| Alyssa Ross | It also seems by far the easiest to obtain | 09:09:31 |
| Steven Keuchel | have not followed what happened in mainline in the last two months | 09:09:39 |
| Alyssa Ross | Looks like still no HDMI, but if I have to apply a few patches in the interim that are on their way upstream that's fine | 09:10:09 |
| Steven Keuchel | I used to compile firefox natively before. But now webkit is quite broken on risc-v which is a dep. I think build time only. | 09:10:54 |
| Alyssa Ross | although https://lore.kernel.org/all/AM7P189MB10092D0348FC9E0A70C911E2E3D12@AM7P189MB1009.EURP189.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM/ doesn't inspire confidence | 09:10:58 |
| Steven Keuchel | * I used to compile firefox natively before. But now webkit, which is a dep of firefox, is quite broken on risc-v. I think build time only. | 09:11:11 |
| Steven Keuchel | * I used to compile firefox natively before. But now webkit, which is a dep of firefox, is quite broken on risc-v. I think build time only dep. | 09:11:14 |
| Alyssa Ross | no update on HDMI for six months | 09:11:33 |
| Alyssa Ross | … what about mainline support on the DeepComputing Framework board? | 12:37:31 |
 Michael | In reply to @qyliss:fairydust.space
mostly I want to test generic OS images I'm building, so only systems with good mainline support are really interesting the VF2 / JH7110 SoC is mostly mainlined https://rvspace.org/en/project/JH7110_Upstream_Plan | 13:59:50 |
 Tristan Ross | In reply to @qyliss:fairydust.space
… what about mainline support on the DeepComputing Framework board? I can ask about that, I know the founder of DeepComputing | 13:59:57 |
| Tristan Ross | He mentioned things will at least be open sourced | 14:00:09 |
| Alyssa Ross | I mean I'd hope the kernel changes would be open source, they're legally required to be | 14:00:37 |
| Alyssa Ross | In reply to @roedimqf:ruhr-uni-bochum.de
the VF2 / JH7110 SoC is mostly mainlined https://rvspace.org/en/project/JH7110_Upstream_Plan I was wondering about things specific to that board though, like what about the framework display? | 14:01:31 |
| Alyssa Ross | is that covered in that table? I don't know how it works | 14:01:46 |
| Michael | The Ky X1 (M1 clone) is comparble cheap and has vector support.
Mainline support is bare at best as of today, though there is a lot of activity on the mailing list (so people are working on it) | 14:02:00 |
| Michael | * The Ky X1 (M1 clone) is comparatively cheap and has vector support.
Mainline support is bare at best as of today, though there is a lot of activity on the mailing list (so people are working on it) | 14:02:42 |
| Michael | * The Ky X1 (Spacemit K1/M1 variant) is comparatively cheap and has vector support.
Mainline support is bare at best as of today, though there is a lot of activity on the mailing list (so people are working on it) | 14:03:43 |
| Tristan Ross | I have the 64GB RAM / 1TB option on order so at least this should do well for RISC-V stuff heh. | 14:05:10 |
| Tristan Ross | Though my VisionFive2 is finally half way done with compiling after it taking a week | 14:06:08 |
| Michael | In reply to @qyliss:fairydust.space
I was wondering about things specific to that board though, like what about the framework display? https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/arch/riscv/boot/dts/starfive/jh7110-deepcomputing-fml13v01.dts looks very basic | 14:10:31 |
