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13 May 2022
@janne.hess:helsinki-systems.dedas_jHydra doesn't have an option to toggle this for some reason10:24:45
@janne.hess:helsinki-systems.dedas_jhttps://github.com/NixOS/hydra/pull/88810:25:01
@os:matrix.flyingcircus.ioosnyx (he/him) But before looking into that, back to restrict-eval: With that being off by default, I cannot find it being activated in the /etc/nix/nix.conf of the hydra host. 10:25:06
@janne.hess:helsinki-systems.dedas_jthere is also some option that allows you to selectively unrestrict paths… but I have never used that10:25:52
@os:matrix.flyingcircus.ioosnyx (he/him)
In reply to @janne.hess:helsinki-systems.de
Hydra doesn't have an option to toggle this for some reason
Ah, that explains why it's on in Hydr
10:27:45
@os:matrix.flyingcircus.ioosnyx (he/him)
In reply to @janne.hess:helsinki-systems.de
Hydra doesn't have an option to toggle this for some reason
* Ah, that explains why it's on in Hydra
10:27:47
@janne.hess:helsinki-systems.dedas_j ah allowed-uris is the option I was talking about but I have no idea what to do with it. Maybe set it to /nix/store? I really don't know 10:28:42
@os:matrix.flyingcircus.ioosnyx (he/him)
In reply to @linus:schreibt.jetzt
Because restrict-eval doesn't affect fixed-output derivations, which are the mechanism through which sources are usually fetched.
That doesn't read like this in the nix docs: https://nixos.org/manual/nix/stable/command-ref/conf-file.html#conf-restrict-eval
So if this is true it should better be mentioned there.
10:28:48
@linus:schreibt.jetzt@linus:schreibt.jetztthe key word there is "evaluator"10:29:21
@os:matrix.flyingcircus.ioosnyx (he/him)I first will have a look how that directory is actually created, I guess some tracing comes in handy there.10:29:37
@os:matrix.flyingcircus.ioosnyx (he/him)
In reply to @linus:schreibt.jetzt
the key word there is "evaluator"
Ah, the component that creates the .drv files to be realised by the nix daemon later?
10:31:32
@linus:schreibt.jetzt@linus:schreibt.jetztnot necessarily the daemon, but yes10:31:44
@os:matrix.flyingcircus.ioosnyx (he/him)Understood. Yeah, not always the daemon (see single-user installs), but I wanted to simplify for clarity. Thx.10:32:27
@linus:schreibt.jetzt@linus:schreibt.jetztthe evaluator also talks to the daemon on multi-user installs, in order to actually create the .drvs :)10:33:10
@os:matrix.flyingcircus.ioosnyx (he/him) das_j: Do you think a remark about the naming of "is forbidden in restricted mode" (Hydra error, not found in Hyfra docs) vs. "restrict-eval" (underlying Nix feature) deserves its own issue or shall I mention it in PR #888? 10:34:29
@janne.hess:helsinki-systems.dedas_j
In reply to @os:matrix.flyingcircus.io
das_j: Do you think a remark about the naming of "is forbidden in restricted mode" (Hydra error, not found in Hyfra docs) vs. "restrict-eval" (underlying Nix feature) deserves its own issue or shall I mention it in PR #888?
I don't know, maybe not in #888 since I doubt this will ever get merged or looked at again
10:35:00
@os:matrix.flyingcircus.ioosnyx (he/him)It could be mentioned in the Hydra docs that the "restricted mode" is derived from "restrict-eval", or the error message could be rephrased10:35:40
@os:matrix.flyingcircus.ioosnyx (he/him)Or if #888 is abandoned than someone (I?) might just document that restricted mode == restrict-eval is always switched on.10:36:22
@janne.hess:helsinki-systems.dedas_j
In reply to @os:matrix.flyingcircus.io
Or if #888 is abandoned than someone (I?) might just document that restricted mode == restrict-eval is always switched on.
It's not abandoned, we do rebase it to master when needed because it's one of the 20 patches we pick into our downstream hydra :D
10:37:01
@janne.hess:helsinki-systems.dedas_j
In reply to @os:matrix.flyingcircus.io
It could be mentioned in the Hydra docs that the "restricted mode" is derived from "restrict-eval", or the error message could be rephrased
But what would the error message say? It's not like you can just change an option to fix the issue
10:37:25

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