| 16 Nov 2025 |
 Corngood | I've been wondering about sandboxing in general on windows. I'm not sure if anyone has made any progress on that. | 18:00:21 |
| Corngood | At least you can have separate cygwin installs that have their own process namespaces and stuff. Certainly nothing secure though. | 18:01:01 |
 Janne | I bet @simon.hauser:helsinki-systems.de would love porting the PSI thingies to the windows equivalent | 18:02:42 |
 eveeifyeve | Do you want me to look into that? | 19:01:11 |
| 17 Nov 2025 |
 John Ericson | I am catching up on this conversation now Corngood | 17:43:39 |
| John Ericson | (and eveeifyeve ) | 17:43:51 |
| John Ericson | K900: you can weigh in of course, but we've had a lot of conversations with @emilylazy and Alyssa Ross about how Cygwin is the last disruptive way to try to get Windows support going | 17:45:42 |
| John Ericson | * K900: you can weigh in of course, but we've had a lot of conversations with @emilylazy and Alyssa Ross about how Cygwin is the last disruptive way to try to get Windows support going in Nixpkgs | 17:45:49 |
| John Ericson | (least disruptive to Nixpkgs) | 17:45:52 |
| John Ericson | I would like for MinGW and LLVM in MSVC-ABI-compat mode to obviate the need for Cygwin longer term for many tasks, but I don't want to block Windows support on "first we have to rewrite stdenv and all the bash" | 17:46:48 |
| John Ericson | Indeed, after first I was excited contemplating switching from bash, etc., but Emily and Alyssa convinced me that was irresponsible, and we have to take small steps | 17:47:27 |
| John Ericson | So the conversation we have there should at least acknowledge the Corngood has received lots of feedback so far that his approach is a good first incremental step, and he's come here to ask about tarballs now because he has made amazing progress far faster than I, at least, I thought was going to happen on the basis of basically 1 person's effort | 17:48:26 |
| John Ericson | * So the conversation we have there should at least acknowledge the Corngood has received lots of feedback so far that his approach is a good first incremental step, and he's come here to ask about tarballs now because he has made amazing progress far faster than I, at least, thought was going to happen on the basis of basically 1 person's effort | 17:49:28 |
| John Ericson | * So for the conversation we have there should at least acknowledge the Corngood has received lots of feedback so far that his approach is a good first incremental step, and he's come here to ask about tarballs now because he has made amazing progress far faster than I, at least, thought was going to happen on the basis of basically 1 person's effort | 17:49:46 |
| John Ericson | * So for the conversation that we have, we should at least acknowledge the Corngood has received lots of feedback so far that his approach is a good first incremental step, and he's come here to ask about tarballs now because he has made amazing progress far faster than I, at least, thought was going to happen on the basis of basically 1 person's effort | 17:50:00 |
| John Ericson | * Indeed, after first I was excited contemplating switching from bash, etc., but Emily and Alyssa convinced me that doing that right away was irresponsible, and we have to take small steps | 17:57:43 |
| Corngood | I also started a discussion on nix-community
https://github.com/orgs/nix-community/discussions/2025
What I'm working on seems quite similar to nix-darwin or nixbsd. Maybe part of it can live there? | 18:07:55 |
| John Ericson | Corngood: this part is a nixpkgs question, but with modular services I would love to see your stuff go upstream | 18:11:04 |
| John Ericson | modular services would benefit from an in-tree non-NixOS consumer of the module system | 18:11:25 |
| John Ericson | (but my bad I see the discussion there is about caching too) | 18:12:24 |
| Corngood | Yeah, agreed. I'm sort of building it that way for now, though it's not very sophisticated yet. | 18:12:32 |
 tomberek | @corngood:corngood.com: is your problem right now that you just need SOME Hydra that you can use? | 23:29:27 |
| Corngood | In reply to @tomberek:matrix.org
@corngood:corngood.com: is your problem right now that you just need SOME Hydra that you can use? I'd say it's more that I need some public binary cache.
I'd like people to be able to test cygwin systems, but builds are extremely slow.
I think short-term the nix-community infra might be the best option.
I don't mind paying for a builder, but something with a level of trust in the community would be best I think. | 23:35:28 |
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