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26 Nov 2022
@magic_rb:matrix.redalder.orgmagic_rb

I would have to move the nix-deamon out of the container into a separate container in that case

19:24:45
@linus:schreibt.jetzt@linus:schreibt.jetztOoh you run it all in a container?19:25:05
@magic_rb:matrix.redalder.orgmagic_rb

which may be a reasonable thing to do, but itll increase complexity a lot

19:25:12
@magic_rb:matrix.redalder.orgmagic_rb

yeah i do

19:25:14
@linus:schreibt.jetzt@linus:schreibt.jetztWhat about limiting nix-daemon within the container?19:25:30
@magic_rb:matrix.redalder.orgmagic_rb

nomad would still have issues with the ram amounts, i would have to keep memory down to 4GB then increase memory max above 8 to 12 which is a really bad idea because nomad schedules based on memory not memory max

19:26:30
@magic_rb:matrix.redalder.orgmagic_rb

i may just have to split it up, nix-daemon, hydra-http and hydra-evaluator

19:26:52
@linus:schreibt.jetzt@linus:schreibt.jetztOh yeah if you're running in nomad that sounds sensibel19:27:08
@linus:schreibt.jetzt@linus:schreibt.jetzt* Oh yeah if you're running in nomad that sounds sensible19:27:14
@magic_rb:matrix.redalder.orgmagic_rb

i dont have space for swap anywhere currently unfortunately, when i clean up the 1TB skyhawks i can put it there but i need to move data of them onto the 4tb wd reds

19:28:19
@magic_rb:matrix.redalder.orgmagic_rb

i would still like to somehow make hydra not eval everything at once, but i would have to know a lot more c++ to do that

19:29:08
@linus:schreibt.jetzt@linus:schreibt.jetztIf you're on nixos, I'd suggest trying zramSwap.enable = true in any case19:29:27
@linus:schreibt.jetzt@linus:schreibt.jetzt
In reply to @magic_rb:matrix.redalder.org

i would still like to somehow make hydra not eval everything at once, but i would have to know a lot more c++ to do that

Or make separate jobsets :p
19:29:39
@magic_rb:matrix.redalder.orgmagic_rb

for flakes? how would that work

19:29:51
@magic_rb:matrix.redalder.orgmagic_rb
In reply to Linux Hackerman
If you're on nixos, I'd suggest trying zramSwap.enable = true in any case
yep, ill do that in any case, seems like a reasonable idea
19:30:05
@linus:schreibt.jetzt@linus:schreibt.jetztOh19:30:06
@linus:schreibt.jetzt@linus:schreibt.jetztWith different subpaths I guess19:30:12
@magic_rb:matrix.redalder.orgmagic_rb

well when i push a change hydra will start evaluating everything at once anyway, it has no notion of "hey maybe evaluations can choke the system too"

19:30:56
@linus:schreibt.jetzt@linus:schreibt.jetztAfaik the evaluator will only evaluate one jobset at a time19:31:33
@magic_rb:matrix.redalder.orgmagic_rb

ah ok so that may be a path forward

19:31:45
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@linus:schreibt.jetzt@linus:schreibt.jetzt
In reply to @magic_rb:matrix.redalder.org

ah ok so that may be a path forward

update: I was wrong, by default it does up to 4 evals at a time. But you can configure that using the max_concurrent_evals option.
19:59:48
@janne.hess:helsinki-systems.dedas_jthere are magic environment variables that may or may not fix that21:00:08
@janne.hess:helsinki-systems.dedas_j
    # evaluator_initial_heap_size is basically equivalent to GC_INITIAL_HEAP_SIZE and defaults to 384MiB
    # evaluator_max_memory_size is… "If our RSS exceeds the maximum, exit. The master will start a new process.". defaults to 4096 (I assume MiB)
    # evaluator_workers is how many parallel evaluator workers are used. defaults to 1
    # max_concurrent_evals defines how many evaluations are run concurrently. defaults to 4
    extraConfig = ''
      email_notification = 1
      evaluator_max_memory_size = 4096
      evaluator_initial_heap_size = ${toString (2 * 1024 * 1024 * 1024)}
      max_output_size = ${toString (16 * 1024 * 1024 * 1024)}
      max_concurrent_evals = 3
      evaluator_workers = 4

21:00:22
@janne.hess:helsinki-systems.dedas_j(all of these are guisses)21:00:26
@janne.hess:helsinki-systems.dedas_j * (all of these are guesses)21:00:29
@janne.hess:helsinki-systems.dedas_j * there are magic settings that may or may not fix that21:00:50
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