| 16 Nov 2025 |
 hexa | Janne: are you offering? 🙂 | 17:58:45 |
 dramforever | oh, yeah i was thinking more about msvc | 17:58:56 |
| dramforever | that one probably doesn't work | 17:59:02 |
| dramforever | cygwin probably does but i'm going to worry about the sandboxing | 17:59:32 |
 Janne | Macos is not my main area of expertise. But tbh, windows would probably be way easier since there is software like trmm that makes fleet management easy while not costing a billion euros and locking you into their cloud | 17:59:42 |
| Janne | I could take over Linux if you take over all of the macos infra though 🤔 | 18:00:19 |
 @corngood:corngood.com | I've been wondering about sandboxing in general on windows. I'm not sure if anyone has made any progress on that. | 18:00:21 |
| @corngood:corngood.com | At least you can have separate cygwin installs that have their own process namespaces and stuff. Certainly nothing secure though. | 18:01:01 |
| Janne | I bet @simon.hauser:helsinki-systems.de would love porting the PSI thingies to the windows equivalent | 18:02:42 |
 @eveeifyeve:matrix.org | Do you want me to look into that? | 19:01:11 |
| 17 Nov 2025 |
 John Ericson | I am catching up on this conversation now Corngood | 17:43:39 |
| John Ericson | (and eveeifyeve ) | 17:43:51 |
| John Ericson | K900: you can weigh in of course, but we've had a lot of conversations with @emilylazy and Alyssa Ross about how Cygwin is the last disruptive way to try to get Windows support going | 17:45:42 |
| John Ericson | * K900: you can weigh in of course, but we've had a lot of conversations with @emilylazy and Alyssa Ross about how Cygwin is the last disruptive way to try to get Windows support going in Nixpkgs | 17:45:49 |
| John Ericson | (least disruptive to Nixpkgs) | 17:45:52 |
| John Ericson | I would like for MinGW and LLVM in MSVC-ABI-compat mode to obviate the need for Cygwin longer term for many tasks, but I don't want to block Windows support on "first we have to rewrite stdenv and all the bash" | 17:46:48 |
| John Ericson | Indeed, after first I was excited contemplating switching from bash, etc., but Emily and Alyssa convinced me that was irresponsible, and we have to take small steps | 17:47:27 |
