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1 Dec 2022
@sandro:supersandro.deSandroDo I want this or does that slow down things? I have the feeling that sometimes jobs just stale a longer time which may be related to that.10:21:05
@sandro:supersandro.deSandro Also is warning: 7 concurrent database updates; PostgreSQL may be stalled normal? postgres itself seems to be happy. 10:21:16
@janne.hess:helsinki-systems.dedas_j
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Do I want this or does that slow down things? I have the feeling that sometimes jobs just stale a longer time which may be related to that.
I don't think it makes any sense. It pushes the required store paths to builders anyway and substituting from itself will never yield any success
10:21:38
@janne.hess:helsinki-systems.dedas_j
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Also is warning: 7 concurrent database updates; PostgreSQL may be stalled normal? postgres itself seems to be happy.
That's normal
10:21:43
@sandro:supersandro.deSandro
In reply to @janne.hess:helsinki-systems.de
I don't think it makes any sense. It pushes the required store paths to builders anyway and substituting from itself will never yield any success
thanks for clarifying. Then I can turn it off and maybe hydra gets going faster
10:25:05
@sandro:supersandro.deSandroit feels usually a bit slow for running one concurrent build10:25:20
@sandro:supersandro.deSandroWould you recommend to increase narinfo-cache-negative-ttl when you rebuild from stage0? Would there be anything else you would suggest to set?11:17:37
@linus:schreibt.jetzt@linus:schreibt.jetztmaybe disable use of binary caches completely if you're doing that?11:18:00
@sandro:supersandro.deSandroI am only doing it for one job of 811:19:22
@andreas.schraegle:helsinki-systems.deajs124
In reply to @janne.hess:helsinki-systems.de
I don't think it makes any sense. It pushes the required store paths to builders anyway and substituting from itself will never yield any success
by default, the builders do substitute tho.
it's like nix-copy-close -s.
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@sandro:supersandro.deSandro

How do I reset an error message like?

Aborted: error: a 'x86_64-linux' with features {gccarch-skylake} is required to build '/nix/store/fykll0wrfya0zqw51nsi9jbi0lasyfaa-closure-info.drv', but I am a 'x86_64-linux' with features {gccarch-haswell, gccarch-ivybridge, gccarch-sandybridge, gccarch-westmere} (log, raw, tail)}

Clear failed builds cache does not seem to do anything. Also why is hydra trying to build this on localhost?

My hydra machines file looks like localhost x86_64-linux - 4 5 gccarch-haswell,gccarch-ivybridge,gccarch-sandybridge,gccarch-westmere - -

15:00:06
3 Dec 2022
@ma27:nicht-so.sexyma27does anybody want to take a look at https://github.com/NixOS/hydra/pull/1263? %) 12:10:50
4 Dec 2022
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5 Dec 2022
@jackdk:matrix.orgjackdk
In reply to @cole-h:matrix.org
You're looking for an "aggregate" job. There are some examples in Nixpkgs, I believe (look for `release.nix` or similarly-named files in `nixos/`). Also present in the Nix (the tool) flake, and probably the Hydra flake / repo as well.
Thanks Cole, this does look like what I need.
00:22:06
@jackdk:matrix.orgjackdk What's the status of determinate's terraform hydra provider? I see a few open PRs and a latest commit on main from August - is it under active development internally, feature complete, something else? 00:24:50
@cole-h:matrix.orgcole-h
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What's the status of determinate's terraform hydra provider? I see a few open PRs and a latest commit on main from August - is it under active development internally, feature complete, something else?
(This is my personal opinion, not that of my employer) I consider it fairly feature complete. 2 of the 3 draft PRs that touch the actual provider depend on upstream PRs being merged. That 3rd draft PR implements support for something that has been merged upstream, but I just never got around to finishing it 🤷
16:31:46
@jackdk:matrix.orgjackdkThanks very much.21:42:28
6 Dec 2022
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7 Dec 2022
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9 Dec 2022
@terwiz:matrix.orgterwizSo, after fiddling around with containerized hydra on aarch64 server and trying to get it working as a builder (and not really getting anywhere with that), we decided to go for a hydra (master) running directly on ubuntu+nix without containers. All docs I have found so far talk about installation on x86 and nixos. Any pointers to docs about installation on ubuntu+nix and/or aarch64, would be appreciated.08:31:52
@linus:schreibt.jetzt@linus:schreibt.jetzt
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So, after fiddling around with containerized hydra on aarch64 server and trying to get it working as a builder (and not really getting anywhere with that), we decided to go for a hydra (master) running directly on ubuntu+nix without containers. All docs I have found so far talk about installation on x86 and nixos. Any pointers to docs about installation on ubuntu+nix and/or aarch64, would be appreciated.
That sounds like a path of great resistance. I don't think anyone really does that :/
09:14:42
@linus:schreibt.jetzt@linus:schreibt.jetztaarch64 should be no problem, but outside nixos will definitely be a lot more effort and probably pain than on nixos09:25:26
@linus:schreibt.jetzt@linus:schreibt.jetztWhy do you have to use Ubuntu? And what went wrong with using a container?09:26:50
@andreas.schraegle:helsinki-systems.deajs124 theoretically, you should be able to do what the NixOS module does manually/with whatever config management tool you use. I agree with Linux Hackerman tho. It sounds painful. 09:35:54
@terwiz:matrix.orgterwizOuch. Well, the server is in AWS and NixOS was not on the premade image list (surprise, surprise). and the server is up and running already. This setup was/is just fine for doing manual builds, and those are still happening, so can't just reinstall everything. With dockerized hydra I suppose the main issue was the /nix/store setup. Also, the nixos/hydra docker image is actually ubuntu + nix and not nixos. So I was also finding it difficult to configure, as all the instructions are for setting etc/nixos/configuration.nix and you don't have that in ubuntu + nix. That's also why I asked for pointers to docs, I expect the same issue without the docker...11:23:38
@linus:schreibt.jetzt@linus:schreibt.jetzt
In reply to @terwiz:matrix.org
Ouch. Well, the server is in AWS and NixOS was not on the premade image list (surprise, surprise). and the server is up and running already. This setup was/is just fine for doing manual builds, and those are still happening, so can't just reinstall everything.
With dockerized hydra I suppose the main issue was the /nix/store setup. Also, the nixos/hydra docker image is actually ubuntu + nix and not nixos. So I was also finding it difficult to configure, as all the instructions are for setting etc/nixos/configuration.nix and you don't have that in ubuntu + nix. That's also why I asked for pointers to docs, I expect the same issue without the docker...
The NixOS foundation publishes NixOS AMIs though
12:17:49
@linus:schreibt.jetzt@linus:schreibt.jetztBut if you've got it working then 🤷12:18:38

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