| 15 Jun 2022 |
 kenran_ | Thanks! | 07:31:47 |
| kenran_ | I'm just a little hesitant right now, but since the servers are payed hourly, there's probably not that much of a risk to just trying. | 07:44:50 |
 Sandro | I would just give it a try 🙃
Worst case you need to rebuild your cache but there shouldn't be any data loss. | 08:11:35 |
| kenran_ | Seems to have worked with some tiny changes (sudo wasn't there, slightly different commands and such). Woo! | 08:29:38 |
|  Florian | W3F changed their display name from Florian | W3F to Florian | OoO till 20.06.. | 09:21:15 |
 @linus:schreibt.jetzt | kenran_: huh, the dedicated servers aren't billed hourly..? | 12:37:50 |
| @linus:schreibt.jetzt | kenran_: are you talking about "dedicated" Hetzner Cloud instances? Because those aren't actually dedicated machines, they're just VMs with reserved CPU capacity | 12:39:17 |
| @linus:schreibt.jetzt | in any case, if you want UEFI boot on the "real" dedicated servers (ordered via robot.your-server.de, not console.hetzner.cloud, billed monthly) you need to open a support ticket iirc. | 12:40:30 |
 ajs124 | In reply to @linus:schreibt.jetzt
in any case, if you want UEFI boot on the "real" dedicated servers (ordered via robot.your-server.de, not console.hetzner.cloud, billed monthly) you need to open a support ticket iirc. you can enable it yourself through the remote kvm. you need to get access to the kvm through a ticket, though. | 12:41:08 |
| @linus:schreibt.jetzt | Either to get support to enable UEFI boot for you, or to get a KVM console through which you can access the firmware settings | 12:41:13 |
| @linus:schreibt.jetzt | I think if you get support to enable it for you, they might also do something with their netboot setup so that the rescue system still works for you? I'm not sure if that's needed or not | 12:41:50 |
| @linus:schreibt.jetzt | I'd recommend ordering a KVM console for the setup either way, because especially if you're doing it for the first time you're likely to end up needing it and it's nice not to have to wait for it in those situations :) | 12:42:38 |
| kenran_ | In reply to @linus:schreibt.jetzt
kenran_: huh, the dedicated servers aren't billed hourly..? Hum, are you sure? I could cancel the first one I ordered, it was removed instantly and a German FAQ entry seemed to say that we wouldn't have to pay the full amount. | 13:21:20 |
| @linus:schreibt.jetzt | What server type was it? | 13:21:43 |
| kenran_ | The smallest there is, AX41-NVMe. | 13:22:27 |
| @linus:schreibt.jetzt | huh ok | 13:22:47 |
| @linus:schreibt.jetzt | that's news to me, but good to know! | 13:22:51 |
| kenran_ | I cancelled it because I thought installing and booting NixOS wouldn't be possible, and now ordered a 2nd one after trying it out and getting it to work. | 13:23:14 |
| kenran_ | In reply to @linus:schreibt.jetzt
that's news to me, but good to know! Oh, don't believe me! It looks like it, but it could well be that there will be an invoice next month :D | 13:23:45 |
| kenran_ | I just thought I read it this way. No invoice so far. And if it would cost me the full monthly amount (initial setup was 0 euros), I'd have hoped to be able to use it for the remaining 29 days. | 13:24:27 |
| kenran_ | I can tell you for certain in a month :D | 13:24:46 |
| @linus:schreibt.jetzt | yeah that might be a special case with the short term cancellation, usually when you cancel the dedicated servers they don't get terminated until the end of the month | 13:26:57 |
| @linus:schreibt.jetzt | (the billing month) | 13:27:02 |
| kenran_ | It may be because we hadn't yet done anything to it, or as you say, same-day cancellation. | 13:28:04 |
| kenran_ | I cancelled it due to the comment at the top of https://github.com/nix-community/nixos-install-scripts/blob/master/hosters/hetzner-dedicated/hetzner-dedicated-wipe-and-install-nixos.sh | 13:28:35 |
| kenran_ | line 20 | 13:28:44 |
| kenran_ | The kexec way worked out fine for me with slight adaptations. Sadly after trying to port our existing hydra nixos config there, the server refused to start.... now I'll just do it again 🙃 | 13:29:47 |
| @linus:schreibt.jetzt | can very much recommend the KVM console, it's very helpful to be able to see the screen of the machine for why it's not booting | 13:30:54 |
| kenran_ | I didn't need the KVM console (I don't actually know what exactly it is or how it looks) yet, as I could put it into rescue system again. | 13:31:17 |
| kenran_ | With the console, do I get access to the boot loader screen? | 13:31:47 |
