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15 May 2026
@Ericson2314:matrix.orgJohn Ericsonthat reminds me we should actually test no local nix store in the presigning case20:16:39
@Ericson2314:matrix.orgJohn Ericsonideally we can do some/all of the tests both ways20:16:55
@Ericson2314:matrix.orgJohn Ericsonrather than write new tests from scratch20:17:00
@Ericson2314:matrix.orgJohn EricsonI do have a NixOS test for presigning and it would be fun to disable the host nix store on that20:17:18
@Ericson2314:matrix.orgJohn EricsonI suppose it might be a problem for evaluations though20:17:34
@Ericson2314:matrix.orgJohn Ericsonmaybe after those are distributed20:17:37
@janne:hess.oooJanneWhy is the clock ticking? I am not aware of a release cycle to catch in hydra?21:04:53
@hexa:lossy.networkhexaThe primary work should be enabling whomever can fix the scheduling in the queue-runner, because all other work is basically pointless if nobody wants to deploy the queue-runner in the state it is right now.21:05:42
@hexa:lossy.networkhexanixos/infra is pinned and so is my private hydra21:06:05
@janne:hess.oooJanne* Why is the clock ticking? I am not aware of a release cycle to catch in hydra? The answer to that would probably also explain the insane velocity the repo currently has (for no apparent reason from my perspective)21:06:13
@janne:hess.oooJanneWhich may give me additional headache (not sure if there will be conflicts) to have to rebase the upcoming security patches for h.n.o21:06:53
@Ericson2314:matrix.orgJohn Ericsonthe click is ticking is my own client work that allows me to work 100% of the time on hydra21:07:04
@Ericson2314:matrix.orgJohn Ericsonthe actual feature work is all basically all done hydra side21:07:29
@Ericson2314:matrix.orgJohn Ericsonbut that is equally pointless if the thing is broken and cannot be deployed21:07:41
@janne:hess.oooJanneI'm a bit too tired to come up with the proper words for what I think so I think I will have to postpone that to tomorrow (from my perspective)21:10:12
@Ericson2314:matrix.orgJohn Ericsonideally, the new queue runner was going to be finsished and deployed jan/feb, before I even started21:10:16
@Ericson2314:matrix.orgJohn Ericsonsure, have a good friday evening21:10:45
@Ericson2314:matrix.orgJohn EricsonOK yay the daemon protocol refactor is now passing the test suite locally22:31:08
@Ericson2314:matrix.orgJohn Ericsonthat's net -2000 lines of code :)22:31:20
16 May 2026
@janne:hess.oooJanneSorry, I honestly don't have anything worthwile to say today either18:02:13
@joerg:thalheim.ioMic92
In reply to @hexa:lossy.network
nixos/infra is pinned and so is my private hydra
What issue did you face in your private instance? I could start stabilizing things a bit.
18:11:02
@hexa:lossy.networkhexacan't deploy the queue-builder on the builders for reasons18:51:21
@tomberek:matrix.orgtomberekI'm keen to try things out... but only been lurking as I'm not quite sure when/if it is in a good state to test (mainly interested in a centralized scheduler with a de-centralized/binary-cache store as the source of truth). What would be helpful here? Docs? Users playing with it? Code? Review?20:28:55
17 May 2026
@joerg:thalheim.ioMic92 tomberek: users playing with would be good 04:55:44
@joerg:thalheim.ioMic92in theory could you not have the queue-builder running on your hydra as well and use nix remote build protocol? Also this sounds a bit like an insane setup.04:56:37
@joerg:thalheim.ioMic92https://github.com/NixOS/hydra/pull/1747 <- Ever since I saw this code the interpolation for flakes scared me.04:57:05
@joerg:thalheim.ioMic92 Simon Hauser: Janne I would like to merge the ofborg infra into the nixos infra repo: https://github.com/NixOS/infra/pull/1009
reason is that this makes it easier to keep staging hydra in sync with the ofborg builder's queue-builder agent. Also shipping security updates on a more regular base is easier this way. I think you should still be able to deploy machines. Potentially we could also give our merge access to the infra repo?
05:50:47
@joerg:thalheim.ioMic92 Janne: in case simon, doesn't read my message, please let him know about the pull request 05:51:18
@hexa:lossy.networkhexasgtm12:13:36
18 May 2026
@janne:hess.oooJanneI tried to keep it similar to make such a migration easier in the future. So I am fully on board with that. The merge access is something that may be helpful and I would take it if given to me but it's not something I will explicitly require or that I think is strictly necessary16:42:46

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