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30 Jun 2021
@fzakaria:matrix.orgfzakaria(speaking about the Matrix channels)03:31:15
@colemickens:matrix.orgcolemickens 🏳️‍🌈agree04:22:28
@jez:petrichor.meJez (he/him) colemickens 🏳️‍🌈 Dandellion which blog posts are these? I've not seen anything 05:47:59
@jez:petrichor.meJez (he/him)I assume that it's related to the recent spamming attacks though? 05:48:30
@colemickens:matrix.orgcolemickens 🏳️‍🌈it's not05:48:50
@colemickens:matrix.orgcolemickens 🏳️‍🌈it's about gnome's adoption of matrix and growing pains / considerations05:49:02
@colemickens:matrix.orgcolemickens 🏳️‍🌈https://blog.ergaster.org/post/20210610-sovereignty-federated-system-gnome/05:49:03
@colemickens:matrix.orgcolemickens 🏳️‍🌈https://blog.ergaster.org/post/20210622-owning-your-matrix-account/05:49:07
@jez:petrichor.meJez (he/him)Ah cool, thanks, my search-fu was failing me05:49:34
@colemickens:matrix.orgcolemickens 🏳️‍🌈luckily my memory was able to fill in enough extra words until finally we got back there :)05:50:14
@sumner:sumnerevans.comsumner
In reply to @colemickens:matrix.org
https://blog.ergaster.org/post/20210610-sovereignty-federated-system-gnome/
I get where they are coming from but I don't think that the author is really giving credit to how hard some of the things he is proposing. For example, guest access is a major problem as it balloons room state significantly. And cannot be classified as "low hanging fruit"
06:01:47
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil

Day two of weechat not being able to connect to matrix.org. Today the error is different:

16:09 -- matrix: Already logged in, syncing...
16:16 -- matrix: Error while reading from socket
16:16 -- matrix: disconnecting from server...
16:16 -- matrix: disconnected from server
16:16 -- matrix: reconnecting to server in 10 seconds
14:17:53
@sumner:sumnerevans.comsumnerIs matrix.org still having general issues?14:34:27
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilAha! https://github.com/poljar/weechat-matrix/issues/28315:17:07
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilI probably should've reported it myself when it started popping up15:17:26
@fzakaria:matrix.orgfzakaria infinisil: is weechat nicer than Element ? 15:29:26
@fzakaria:matrix.orgfzakariaso far Element is OK. I find the same challenge with keeping notified of responses to me in fast moving chats.15:29:42
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil fzakaria: It's not "nicer", since some things aren't supported, and the UI can't support all features. 15:33:01
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilBut I'm very used to weechat, its UI is very minimal and easy to keep track of for me15:33:23
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilAlso it's very lightweight, and it can keep both IRC and matrix chats in one place (multiple matrix accounts too, in a single window!)15:33:51
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilNote that there's a rust rewrite of weechat-matrix going on, which will add support for some more features15:34:14
@fzakaria:matrix.orgfzakariamany of my IRC seem to have moved to Matrix; so i guess I just stopped using it. I really liked Quassel when I was on freenode15:37:09
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilNotably the Haskell community is still on IRC (libera), and there's some other networks I'm in too15:42:53
@sumner:sumnerevans.comsumnerI've been using Heisenbridge for all my IRC needs lately (it's like ZNC, but you communicate with it over Matrix). You have to self-host it, though.15:44:00
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilBack in weechat!15:44:13
@schnecfk:ruhr-uni-bochum.deCRTified
In reply to @sumner:sumnerevans.com
I've been using Heisenbridge for all my IRC needs lately (it's like ZNC, but you communicate with it over Matrix). You have to self-host it, though.
For freenode, there was also an official bridge. AFAIK they're aiming to do the same for libera after "that event"
15:52:18
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilI should definitely upstream the matrix-nio update I just made..15:45:33
@schnecfk:ruhr-uni-bochum.deCRTifiedThey're hosting their own bridge now, at least it sounds like that in the matrix weekly: https://matrix.org/blog/2021/06/18/this-week-in-matrix-2021-06-18#matrix-appservice-irc-weights-in-at-release-027015:53:44
@sumner:sumnerevans.comsumner
In reply to @schnecfk:ruhr-uni-bochum.de
For freenode, there was also an official bridge. AFAIK they're aiming to do the same for libera after "that event"
It already exists for libera :) The bridge is actually first-class, so you can access via: #libera on libera.chat via #libera:libera.chat for example.
15:53:43
@schnecfk:ruhr-uni-bochum.deCRTified * They're hosting their own bridge (matrix-appservice-irc) now, at least it sounds like that in the matrix weekly: https://matrix.org/blog/2021/06/18/this-week-in-matrix-2021-06-18#matrix-appservice-irc-weights-in-at-release-027015:53:46

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