| 20 Feb 2024 |
 @falaichte:techsaviours.org | * I'd have to agree but for very different reasons. That kneejerk reaction itself had been a massive red flag, as it demonestrates that people have no desire to openly share and discuss thoughts or to even allow people to have them. | 15:36:55 |
 @fractivore:cyberia.club | More like, I've already thought through and debated this issue and concluded deplatforming fascists is a good thing. | 15:36:59 |
| @falaichte:techsaviours.org | In reply to@joepie91:pixie.town
nazi ideology is not grounds for debate, it's grounds for removal When you try to remove something with prejudice, you only end up making a martyr out of them. That is precisely how the Nazi party got their start and is being mirrored right now as we speak in Germany with their alt-right party. | 15:37:42 |
 @joepie91:pixie.town | don't bother, I have heard every bit of nazi rhetoric before | 15:38:33 |
 @lillecarl:matrix.org | It's also not NixOS moderators job to try and humanise every dickhead on earth, it's easier to get rid of them. The internet has billions of people that aren't dickheads so don't ater for the dickheads | 15:38:41 |
| @lillecarl:matrix.org | * It's also not NixOS moderators job to try and humanise every dickhead on earth, it's easier to get rid of them. The internet has billions of people that aren't dickheads so don't cater for the dickheads | 15:39:01 |
| @joepie91:pixie.town | "we need to listen to the fascists" no we don't, actually, fuck off | 15:39:12 |
| @lillecarl:matrix.org | Let their governments deal with them or whatever | 15:39:27 |
| @falaichte:techsaviours.org | In reply to@joepie91:pixie.town
don't bother, I have heard every bit of nazi rhetoric before That isn't rhetoric, it's common sense. This is how history ends up repeating itself. | 15:39:30 |
| @joepie91:pixie.town | like I said, I've heard every bit of rhetoric before | 15:39:52 |
| @fractivore:cyberia.club | Naw dawg, it's a much bigger issue for it to be considered acceptable to base your political views around... The kind of shit that fascists do | 15:40:27 |
| @falaichte:techsaviours.org | In reply to@joepie91:pixie.town
like I said, I've heard every bit of rhetoric before To that end, I would ask why you don't treat other radicalized political philosophies to the same degree. | 15:40:42 |
| @falaichte:techsaviours.org | Lot of horrible shit came about because of Stalin and Mao after all. | 15:40:55 |
| @fractivore:cyberia.club | We want to deplatform tankies too | 15:41:14 |
| @joepie91:pixie.town | there is exactly one problem in this situation, and that is your insistence that a dedicated nazi room would be totally fine | 15:41:20 |
| @joepie91:pixie.town | In reply to @falaichte:techsaviours.org
To that end, I would ask why you don't treat other radicalized political philosophies to the same degree. you can ask until you're blue in the face, I do not debate proponents of fascism | 15:41:49 |
| @falaichte:techsaviours.org | In reply to@joepie91:pixie.town
there is exactly one problem in this situation, and that is your insistence that a dedicated nazi room would be totally fine I don't think a political room would be conductive to having a healthy community for very different reasons. | 15:41:58 |
| @falaichte:techsaviours.org | Mostly because it ends up acellerating radicalism. | 15:42:10 |
 adamcstephens | I think this exact discussion is why I would prefer no political discussion. It doesn’t further the health and cohesiveness of the community. | 15:42:10 |
| @lillecarl:matrix.org | inb4 modfight? Everyone but one is in agreement that it's ok to deplatform people. End of story? | 15:42:22 |
| @joepie91:pixie.town | the problem here is not "political discussion". the problem is fucking nazis | 15:42:42 |
| @joepie91:pixie.town | let's not get the two mixed up | 15:43:08 |
| @falaichte:techsaviours.org | My problem is that you're showing prejudice toward one political extreme while not holding the same to account. | 15:43:29 |
| adamcstephens | Let’s not pretend liberalism as practiced in todays times is some bastion of moral superiority. | 15:43:38 |
| @joepie91:pixie.town | I don't care what your problem is | 15:43:44 |
| @fractivore:cyberia.club | In reply to @adam:robins.wtf
Let’s not pretend liberalism as practiced in todays times is some bastion of moral superiority. I personally don't support liberalism either 🤷 | 15:44:13 |
| @joepie91:pixie.town | the moment you argued that a nazi room would be fine here, you eliminated any interest on my part to have a discussion with you | 15:44:21 |
| @fractivore:cyberia.club | We still gotta deplatform the violent ones | 15:44:29 |
| @falaichte:techsaviours.org | In reply to@fractivore:cyberia.club
I personally don't support liberalism either 🤷 Sounded cool on paper, but didn't really turn out that great in practice. | 15:44:40 |
| @lillecarl:matrix.org | It's not always very far between "political discussion" and nazis. Political discussions "always" detour unless someone is babysitting. There are people who are communists, there are people who think communists are crazy, there's someone to think every other someone is crazy | 15:44:45 |
