| 24 May 2025 |
 emily | but I don't think we should have an attitude of "we need to stay on Matrix to not let them win". (I don't think anyone has this attitude though… so maybe what I'm saying is pointless) | 09:55:46 |
 uep | right | 09:56:12 |
| emily | we moved off freenode awful fast when it turned out a certain sysop had made the dubious decision of selling the network to the Crown Prince of Korea :p | 09:57:53 |
 Gnuxie 💜🐝 | We are developing the gradual access control protection for draupnir. But it is slow and we aren't actively working on it because we also hold the burdens for homeserver admins at the moment (to stop invitations for one thing). And there are lots of other things that need immediate attention. So I can't actually promise anyone when it will be ready. | 10:04:22 |
| emily | thanks for your work. sorry you don't get more resources for it than I'm presuming you do | 10:09:27 |
| emily | I've kind of resigned myself to being a Matrix hater for years at this point but I still hope things get better because a lot of people rely on it and will do even if we move off. | 10:10:16 |
| emily | (but god I would be happy to take Element out of the dock.) | 10:11:08 |
 f0x | In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
but also this sucks – people can join the unofficial Discords in two clicks. do we really want to cede the ground of a place people can actually quickly ask a Nix question to them? a lot of (project) Discords are also harder to access, either having to wait 10 minutes before you can say something or requiring a phone number linked to the account (not sure how guild specific the latter is) | 10:19:46 |
| emily | right. | 10:20:02 |
| emily | I think that's not true of the Nix Discords, but I haven't been in them so I wouldn't know. | 10:20:09 |
| emily | I'm just saying that's our "competition". I don't think it's strictly a competition but I think it's a deliberate decision that the Discords aren't official and we probably don't want unofficial spaces to be strictly more accessible than official ones. | 10:20:37 |
