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24 May 2025
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilydoes Zulip support SSO integrations? could we allow anyone with a Discourse or GitHub account to join without registration?10:22:11
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyyes for GitHub: https://zulip.readthedocs.io/en/latest/production/authentication-methods.html10:22:43
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyand it does SAML/OIDC, so I assume we could reuse Discourse accounts, but that might not matter as much (if you are okay making a Discourse account you are more likely to be okay making one for chat)10:23:21
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyI don't know. I really think we should consider it. if we're going to spend a lot of time setting up a more permanent Matrix entryway, mightn't it be a good idea to try spinning up a demo Zulip and asking the SC what they think?10:24:03
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily(or Mattermost, or whatever.)10:24:16
@k900:0upti.meK900The big downside for Zulip is no mobile push on selfhosted 10:24:43
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily

Google’s and Apple’s security model for mobile push notifications does not allow self-hosted Zulip servers to directly send mobile notifications to the Zulip mobile apps. The Zulip Mobile Push Notification Service solves this problem by forwarding mobile push notifications generated by your server to the Zulip mobile apps.

10:25:13
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyhttps://zulip.readthedocs.io/en/latest/production/mobile-push-notifications.html10:25:16
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyI think it's okay to rely on a central server for push.10:25:21
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyMatrix clients already do.10:25:24
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyit looks like we can still self-host Zulip.10:25:32
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilymaybe that functionality didn't exist previously?10:25:47
@k900:0upti.meK900

To access the Mobile Push Notification Service, organizations with more than 10 users must upgrade to a paid plan

10:26:29
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyis that going to be an issue? we pay for a lot of stuff10:26:52
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyhmm it's pretty pricey :)10:27:05
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyoh10:27:20
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily

Free Standard plan eligibility
Open-source projects

10:27:24
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyno issue then?10:27:34

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