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26 May 2021
@andi:kack.itandi-Can you still boot GHC from bash or C ?11:56:29
@toonn:matrix.orgtoonn That I do not know. Sounds like something that's more likely to have bitrotten than not. 11:57:21
@andi:kack.itandi-I remember attending a Haskell hackathon where you had to provide a compiler and then you would bootstrap GHC in like 3 stages11:58:41
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@andi:kack.itandi-Have we actually bothered with reproducibility on MacOS before? So far every single python build is different...21:05:02
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@baloo_:matrix.orgbalooI think only linux is in the scope23:19:56
@baloo_:matrix.orgbaloor13y only tests for linux23:20:30
27 May 2021
@ninjatrappeur:matrix.orgNinjaTrappeur
In reply to @andi:kack.it
Can you still boot GHC from bash or C ?
You currently can't :(
06:29:37
@ninjatrappeur:matrix.orgNinjaTrappeurhttps://www.joachim-breitner.de/blog/748-Thoughts_on_bootstrapping_GHC06:30:14
@siraben:matrix.orgsiraben x-post from Melg8: "If there somebody interested in nix bootstrap, please checkout https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/123095 i think we need some discussion/thoughts about it. " 06:33:13
@ninjatrappeur:matrix.orgNinjaTrappeurI remember reading a WIP based on hugs but I can't find the link anymore :( TL;DR: there's been some effort in that area, but as far as I can tell, nothing beyond a WIP.06:33:22
@siraben:matrix.orgsirabenthe only fully bootstrappable Haskell compiler I'm aware of right now is https://github.com/OriansJ/blynn-compiler which implements a subset of GHC's Haskell (enough for it to self-host and be accepted by GHC)06:34:38
@siraben:matrix.orgsirabenbut GHC itself has lost a bootstrap long ago07:24:46
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28 May 2021
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29 May 2021
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@immae:matrix.orgimmaehttps://r13y.com/ still mentions #nixos-r13y (cc grahamc (he/him))09:46:34
@immae:matrix.orgimmae(and congratulations for managing to remove gcc from the unreproductible list btw!)09:48:49
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.org Can you send me a pr? Grahamc/r13y.com I think 11:29:11
@siraben:matrix.orgsiraben
In reply to @immae:matrix.org
(and congratulations for managing to remove gcc from the unreproductible list btw!)
yay!
11:44:58
@siraben:matrix.orgsirabenwhat was the effect on performance of compiled binaries?11:45:16
@andi:kack.itandi-
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what was the effect on performance of compiled binaries?
Compilation is now about 10% slower IIRC
11:46:07
@siraben:matrix.orgsirabenoh, and are the binaries slower?11:46:50
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