| 13 Aug 2021 |
 Las | Doing the same for ordinary store paths would also be nice but would require a FUSE or similar I imagine. | 08:53:35 |
 Alyssa Ross | yeah, that's what I was thinking | 08:54:06 |
|  tilpner joined the room. | 11:23:11 |
| 14 Aug 2021 |
 Mic92 | Is it now planned to switch to mesonbuild for nix? I am following https://github.com/NixOS/nix/pull/3160 but it is not clear to me? | 20:18:52 |
| 15 Aug 2021 |
|  Rev. CornWallace III (novus ordo seclorum) changed their display name from cw (not sticky anymore) to cw (got the delta). | 00:57:52 |
| Rev. CornWallace III (novus ordo seclorum) changed their display name from cw (got the delta) to cw (just got delta). | 00:58:35 |
| Las | I don't think there are any plans to switch to it, even if support for it is added, since it needs to be easy to bootstrap. | 07:47:50 |
 nixinator | In reply to @Las:matrix.org
I don't think there are any plans to switch to it, even if support for it is added, since it needs to be easy to bootstrap. does meson require python to function? | 07:50:59 |
| Las | に返信 @nixinator:nixos.dev
does meson require python to function? Seemingly yeah | 07:53:08 |
| nixinator | i can see why nix itself, as it's the old chicken and egg problem... needs to be lean and mean when it comes to building itself. | 07:56:22 |
| nixinator | sometimes you just don't want it more than gcc nix.c -o nix ;-) | 07:58:01 |
| nixinator | you still need a hell of lot of tooling to make that actually work, but you don't need a complete python environment too!!! | 07:58:49 |
| Mic92 | In reply to @nixinator:nixos.dev
you still need a hell of lot of tooling to make that actually work, but you don't need a complete python environment too!!! Autotools is afaik more restricting than python. Have you tried installing autotools, make, etc on windows? | 18:51:38 |
| Mic92 | In reply to @nixinator:nixos.dev
you still need a hell of lot of tooling to make that actually work, but you don't need a complete python environment too!!! * Autotools is afaik more restricting than python. Have you tried installing autotools, coreutils, make, etc on windows? | 18:55:03 |
| nixinator | In reply to @mic92:nixos.dev
Autotools is afaik more restricting than python. Have you tried installing autotools, coreutils, make, etc on windows? no because these are unix tools. | 21:51:18 |
| Mic92 | Autotools is also not really maintained anymore. There was only a few months ago someone paid to do some fixes. | 21:52:14 |
| nixinator | In reply to @mic92:nixos.dev
Autotools is afaik more restricting than python. Have you tried installing autotools, coreutils, make, etc on windows? * no because these are unix tools. ;-) | 21:52:16 |
| nixinator | yeah...it's a problem. | 21:52:29 |
| Mic92 | Hence it bitrots as operating systems and toolchains get updated. | 21:52:50 |
| nixinator | sigh...you are absolutel correct. | 21:53:15 |
| nixinator | * sigh...you are absolutely correct. | 21:53:29 |
| nixinator | so whats the solution @mic92 | 21:56:07 |
| nixinator | also, i'd be interested to see what fixes you made to autotools? i strongly believe perfect design is not how many features you can add, but when you can't take anything more away, same goes for dependencies and code reuse. In a perfect world a single application is self contained, and doesn't rely on anything. But it's far from a perfect world, hence DLL hell, dependency nightmares... and it 'work's on my machine syndrome'. That's why i picked up nix, because it really is trying to solve these problems, without containers like docker to build complex software projects . | 22:07:32 |
| 16 Aug 2021 |
| Las | In reply to @nixinator:nixos.dev
so whats the solution @mic92 You could make an ad-hoc build system | 07:35:29 |
| Las | It doesn't have to do caching, since it's for bootstrapping | 07:35:40 |
 Gytis Ivaskevicius | Latest nixpkgs fails to build nix due to , withAWS ? !enableStatic && (stdenv.isLinux || stdenv.isDarwin), aws-sdk-cpp | 12:21:29 |
| Gytis Ivaskevicius | 👀 | 12:21:35 |
| Gytis Ivaskevicius | and its release-21.05 | 12:21:46 |
| Gytis Ivaskevicius | i swear i must be high or something super unprofessional happend | 12:22:07 |
 toonn | The branch or the channel? Because I assume the channel has checks to prevent propagation when nix fails to build. | 12:24:11 |
