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21 Aug 2021
@andi:kack.itandi-and custom Go compatible shell?11:36:11
@mic92:nixos.devMic92did it?11:37:12
@mic92:nixos.devMic92is see: https://github.com/u-root/u-root/blob/master/pkg/golang/build.go11:37:50
@andi:kack.itandi-I think I saw that when looking at Linuxboot a while ago12:06:36
22 Aug 2021
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@edude03:matrix.orgedude03
In reply to @mic92:nixos.dev
Opinions? https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/132087
Looks good to me, although I found a bug in there that I'm uh, worried about submitting a fix for
15:38:10
@edude03:matrix.orgedude03the TLDR is that sometimes it fails to come up because there is a race between k8s & cfssl. On slow machines I find that cfssl loses the race and thus kubernetes can't start 15:38:42
@edude03:matrix.orgedude03However, after reading that ticket, I'm wondering if someone already noticed that, tried to fix it, and it had unintended consequences 15:39:17
@edude03:matrix.orgedude03That said in my own use case it works so 🤔15:39:26
3 Sep 2021
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7 Sep 2021
@jackdk:matrix.orgjackdkso, you know the gg paper, right? where they instrumented a build system and did all the actual building on Lambda? Has anyone played with using Lambda as a remote builder for nix?05:47:18
@andi:kack.itandi-Eelco did some hacking on using an SQS queue for the actual worker queue: https://github.com/edolstra/nix/commits/aws-store09:03:30
15 Sep 2021
@mic92:nixos.devMic92How much compute power does one get there? Also traffic costs in aws can be significant.07:48:04
17 Sep 2021
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9 Oct 2021
@colemickens:matrix.orgcolemickens 🏳️‍🌈confession: I regret some of my historical whining about Azure; I don't know how people get by in every other cloud without the concept of ARM groups. Cleaning up a handful of sporadic resources in OCI is a nightmare. Either do it by hand, or you spin up a Stack, and a Job, (actually two because the first might fail) which causes OCI to run Terraform for you to do the mass delete.00:26:30
@colemickens:matrix.orgcolemickens 🏳️‍🌈 * confession: I regret some of my historical whining about Azure; I don't know how people get by in every other cloud without the concept of ARM groups. Cleaning up a handful of sporadic resources in OCI is a nightmare. Either do it by hand, or you spin up a Stack, and a Job, (actually two because the first might fail) which causes OCI to run Terraform for you to do the mass delete.00:27:07
@josw:matrix.orgjoswThen again, I often wonder how much they read into Nix to get where they are now with Azure08:24:42
@josw:matrix.orgjoswkinda hurts...08:25:13
@colemickens:matrix.orgcolemickens 🏳️‍🌈I didn't quite track that bit.23:00:25
12 Oct 2021
@kamadorueda:matrix.orgkamadorueda
In reply to @jackdk:matrix.org
so, you know the gg paper, right? where they instrumented a build system and did all the actual building on Lambda? Has anyone played with using Lambda as a remote builder for nix?
Tomberek has experimented with it https://github.com/tomberek/lambdanix Also I believe that nowadays (2+ years after that attempt) things might have become easier as now lambda supports using custom container images so long they respect a few conventions
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@kamadorueda:matrix.orgkamadoruedaI personally find lambda quite an interesting target because of scalability04:50:00
@jackdk:matrix.orgjackdk
In reply to @kamadorueda:matrix.org
Tomberek has experimented with it https://github.com/tomberek/lambdanix Also I believe that nowadays (2+ years after that attempt) things might have become easier as now lambda supports using custom container images so long they respect a few conventions
Thank you for the pointer. I'll have a dig around.
05:49:43
17 Oct 2021
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19 Oct 2021
@jackdk:matrix.orgjackdkare we likely to get updated "arm64" AMIs in the next nixos release?00:58:29
20 Oct 2021
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22 Oct 2021
@roberthensing:matrix.orgRobert Hensing (roberth) jackdk: we had some in the previous release which weren't listed. Fix: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/140992 07:44:05

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