| 16 Oct 2025 |
Alyssa Ross | it's not to perl, it's just a perl package | 17:00:09 |
matthewcroughan @ 39c3 (DECT 94667 or 97340 or 67192) | Yeah I meant to the perl ecosystem | 17:00:18 |
matthewcroughan @ 39c3 (DECT 94667 or 97340 or 67192) | like it's not always clear where the sources or appropriate upstream path is | 17:00:33 |
matthewcroughan @ 39c3 (DECT 94667 or 97340 or 67192) | sometimes github, sometimes mailing lists, sometimes nowhere | 17:00:40 |
matthewcroughan @ 39c3 (DECT 94667 or 97340 or 67192) | and since we use mirror:// that further masks it | 17:01:00 |
Alyssa Ross | looks like they merge PRs in this case | 17:01:12 |
matthewcroughan @ 39c3 (DECT 94667 or 97340 or 67192) | NIce! | 17:01:16 |
matthewcroughan @ 39c3 (DECT 94667 or 97340 or 67192) | * Nice! | 17:01:22 |
Alyssa Ross | BTW: if something is going to be broken on every musl distro (like this fix), please try to take the fix upstream before working around it in Nixpkgs. If we all do this (and the other distros usually do), it's less work for all of us than if we all have to separately apply the same workarounds downstream. | 17:02:29 |
matthewcroughan @ 39c3 (DECT 94667 or 97340 or 67192) | I can't find a reference to off64_t in their sources on github | 17:02:31 |
Alyssa Ross | hmm, maybe it got fixed already? | 17:02:42 |
matthewcroughan @ 39c3 (DECT 94667 or 97340 or 67192) | The reason I make the PRs isn't always to get it merged, but to provide a reproducer that allows others to tell me that it should be upstreamed | 17:03:06 |
Alyssa Ross | presumably the build error shows you were off64_t was used | 17:03:08 |
matthewcroughan @ 39c3 (DECT 94667 or 97340 or 67192) | I'm not as experienced, so I need someone like you to tell me that I need to upstream it | 17:03:14 |
matthewcroughan @ 39c3 (DECT 94667 or 97340 or 67192) | More like a request for comment really | 17:03:39 |
Alyssa Ross | ah, in that case drafting the PR is a good way to communicate that | 17:03:49 |
matthewcroughan @ 39c3 (DECT 94667 or 97340 or 67192) | Okay I can start doing that | 17:03:56 |
Alyssa Ross | otherwise there's a risk that somebody merges it without understanding your intention that it not necessarily be merged as is | 17:04:19 |
Alyssa Ross | thanks for all your efforts btw :) | 17:04:32 |
matthewcroughan @ 39c3 (DECT 94667 or 97340 or 67192) | headpat accepted | 17:04:47 |
matthewcroughan @ 39c3 (DECT 94667 or 97340 or 67192) | Alyssa Ross: Actually it does look like it's the perl core that's broken? | 17:09:44 |
matthewcroughan @ 39c3 (DECT 94667 or 97340 or 67192) | > /nix/store/xi08qryndrv2a2vih9s4n5kzfp8hzn9r-perl-5.40.0/lib/perl5/5.40.0/aarch64-linux-thread-multi/CORE/proto.h:10777:15: error: unknown type name 'off64_t'; did you mean 'off_t'? | 17:09:45 |
matthewcroughan @ 39c3 (DECT 94667 or 97340 or 67192) | that's not coming from DBI, it's coming from perl core, no? | 17:09:52 |
matthewcroughan @ 39c3 (DECT 94667 or 97340 or 67192) | lib/perl5/5.40.0/aarch64-linux-thread-multi/CORE/proto.h | 17:10:06 |
Alyssa Ross | oh, interesting | 17:12:00 |
Alyssa Ross | looks like it | 17:12:01 |
Alyssa Ross | I'm surprised that hasn't been fixed already if it's in perl | 17:12:11 |
matthewcroughan @ 39c3 (DECT 94667 or 97340 or 67192) | Yeah, I'll just note it down in the PR anyway for posterity | 17:12:30 |
matthewcroughan @ 39c3 (DECT 94667 or 97340 or 67192) | Alyssa Ross: I run into other issues like this in Python, that seem to me to be 32 vs 64 bit issues, do you agree?
g++ -fno-strict-overflow -Wsign-compare -DNDEBUG -g -O3 -Wall -fPIC -I/nix/store/wskvcibvzlm1rp3j244m4dlmzxnjzsn9-python3-3.13.8/include/python3.13 -c _re2.cc -o build/temp.linux-aarch64-cpython-313/_re2.o -std=c++17
_re2.cc:252:1: error: cannot convert ‘std::nullptr_t’ to ‘Py_ssize_t’ {aka ‘long int’} in initialization
252 | };
| ^
_re2.cc:296:1: error: cannot convert ‘std::nullptr_t’ to ‘Py_ssize_t’ {aka ‘long int’} in initialization
296 | };
| ^
_re2.cc:340:1: error: cannot convert ‘std::nullptr_t’ to ‘Py_ssize_t’ {aka ‘long int’} in initialization
340 | };
| ^
| 17:27:00 |
matthewcroughan @ 39c3 (DECT 94667 or 97340 or 67192) | I saw this kind of thing a lot when compiling old fortran code | 17:27:07 |