| 18 Oct 2025 |
 dramforever | as maint goes on | 12:30:07 |
| dramforever | example: https://github.com/loongson-community/nixpkgs | 12:30:23 |
 matthewcroughan @ 39c3 (DECT 94667 or 97340 or 67192) | Yeah I have been, and then submitting PRs | 12:30:29 |
| matthewcroughan @ 39c3 (DECT 94667 or 97340 or 67192) | Like my flake right now is depending on my own fork | 12:30:38 |
 Alyssa Ross | that's the way | 12:30:43 |
| Alyssa Ross | over time the diff reduces | 12:30:48 |
| Alyssa Ross | and then your fork fades away | 12:30:51 |
| dramforever | yeah just do that | 12:30:54 |
| Alyssa Ross | that's what happened with my own musl work | 12:30:55 |
| Alyssa Ross | now everything works in upstream Nixpkgs and I no longer have a fork | 12:31:04 |
| Alyssa Ross | but you can't get there overnight | 12:31:06 |
| dramforever | if you don't make your work block on having nixpkgs merge stuff what's the urgency | 12:31:45 |
| matthewcroughan @ 39c3 (DECT 94667 or 97340 or 67192) | There isn't? I'm just firing off PRs as soon as I find them | 12:32:23 |
| matthewcroughan @ 39c3 (DECT 94667 or 97340 or 67192) | Like i'm not letting things hang around | 12:32:43 |
| matthewcroughan @ 39c3 (DECT 94667 or 97340 or 67192) | * Like i'm not letting things hang around unsubmitted | 12:32:51 |
| Alyssa Ross | you were asking about mesa/valgrind in a way that suggested urgency | 12:33:09 |
| matthewcroughan @ 39c3 (DECT 94667 or 97340 or 67192) | Maybe I'm just excited? :D | 12:33:19 |
| matthewcroughan @ 39c3 (DECT 94667 or 97340 or 67192) | Not urgent at all | 12:33:23 |
| Alyssa Ross | if there isn't urgency, the thing to do is finish fixing valgrind | 12:33:24 |
| dramforever | you seem very vehemently against the idea of nixpkgs just not disabling valgrind for mesa on musl+llvm | 12:33:56 |
| matthewcroughan @ 39c3 (DECT 94667 or 97340 or 67192) | No, I just think it's probably the right thing to do, like who needs valgrind on mesa? | 12:34:25 |
| dramforever | this is the "urgency" i've been talking about, you've been urging this for like twenty minutes | 12:34:31 |
| matthewcroughan @ 39c3 (DECT 94667 or 97340 or 67192) | Like, it's for development and debugging, no? | 12:34:37 |
| matthewcroughan @ 39c3 (DECT 94667 or 97340 or 67192) | and it increases the closure size quite a bit probably anyway | 12:34:54 |
| matthewcroughan @ 39c3 (DECT 94667 or 97340 or 67192) | Ah yeah it also depends on perl | 12:35:33 |
| matthewcroughan @ 39c3 (DECT 94667 or 97340 or 67192) | So can't have a perlless system with this in :D | 12:35:46 |
| dramforever | it is for development and debugging, which a lot of nixpkgs users do | 12:35:50 |
| Alyssa Ross | if you want to argue for disabling valgrind by default on mesa, that's very different from arguing for doing it on "some platforms". | 12:36:25 |
| Alyssa Ross | but presumably at some point somebody decided that Valgrind should be included in Mesa, so it's not necessarily going to be easy to find consensus for | 12:37:26 |
| matthewcroughan @ 39c3 (DECT 94667 or 97340 or 67192) | It's optional via override so it's fine | 12:37:46 |
