| 2 Aug 2021 |
 Alyssa Ross | you don't have to convince me that more cross targets in general are a good thing | 08:05:50 |
 siraben | ok | 08:06:02 |
| siraben | Yeah, getting it right is the hard bit | 08:06:06 |
| siraben | I usually use GNU Hello as "good enough" | 08:06:11 |
| Alyssa Ross | but in this case, where there's no software we can even build for this thing, there's no way for us to even test it | 08:06:14 |
| Alyssa Ross | so I don't think it really makes sense to have this particular target in Nixpkgs | 08:08:41 |
| siraben | I see | 08:12:41 |
| siraben | Closing, then. | 08:12:59 |
| Alyssa Ross | If you can figure out some way to test it (e.g. running a cross-compiled hello on an emulator running PDP-11 Unix), then please re-open :) | 08:18:22 |
 alexfmpe | John Ericson: any clue why gold is missing from binutils when targeting mingw? | 20:07:45 |
 John Ericson | It probably just didn't support it | 20:10:22 |
| John Ericson | But I don't know | 20:10:25 |
| John Ericson | It should be fine for neo | 20:10:30 |
| John Ericson | *now | 20:10:33 |
 sterni | pkgsCross.mingwW64.stdenv.cc.bintools.bintools.configureFlags has --enable-gold in the configure flags at the very least | 20:11:38 |
| sterni | so I guess one needs to check the build output of bintools for that target to figure out what is going on | 20:11:54 |
| alexfmpe | > ls $(nix-build -A pkgsCross.mingwW64.stdenv.cc.bintools.bintools)/bin
x86_64-w64-mingw32-addr2line x86_64-w64-mingw32-c++filt x86_64-w64-mingw32-elfedit x86_64-w64-mingw32-ld.bfd x86_64-w64-mingw32-objdump x86_64-w64-mingw32-size x86_64-w64-mingw32-windmc
x86_64-w64-mingw32-ar x86_64-w64-mingw32-dlltool x86_64-w64-mingw32-gprof x86_64-w64-mingw32-nm x86_64-w64-mingw32-ranlib x86_64-w64-mingw32-strings x86_64-w64-mingw32-windres
x86_64-w64-mingw32-as x86_64-w64-mingw32-dllwrap x86_64-w64-mingw32-ld x86_64-w64-mingw32-objcopy x86_64-w64-mingw32-readelf x86_64-w64-mingw32-strip
| 20:12:58 |
| alexfmpe | no gold anywhere somehow | 20:13:10 |
| alexfmpe | > ls $(nix-build -A pkgs.stdenv.cc.bintools.bintools)/bin
addr2line ar as c++filt dwp elfedit gprof ld ld.bfd ld.gold nm objcopy objdump ranlib readelf size strings strip
| 20:13:29 |
| alexfmpe | dwp seems to also not exist in the mingwW64-targetting one | 20:14:03 |
| alexfmpe | where's stuff like x86_64-w64-mingw32-dlltool coming from? | 20:14:32 |
| sterni | hm this is the build log for it but quick ctrl+f shows nothing interesting https://hydra.nixos.org/build/148559396/nixlog/1 | 20:16:52 |
| John Ericson | alexfmpe: gold probably just doesn't support PE (portable executable) as opposed to ELF which linux uses | 20:41:07 |
 ius | siraben: Consider RiscV/Power(PC)/MIPS if you're looking for something which can actually run on hardware. Plenty of issues to solve once you go a step further than just building a cross toolchain. | 21:39:39 |
| ius | Having toyed around with PowerPC over the past few days I can say there are plenty of rabbit holes to dig yourself into. Surprised to see uImage generation is (was, soon) broken for months. Hard to get something to build with a reasonable closure size for embedded targets though.. (systemd is a bit.. ..feature rich and there's an unfortunate perl dependency lurking in the shadows) | 21:48:35 |
| 3 Aug 2021 |
| Alyssa Ross | or help me with BSD | 07:04:11 |
 Mic92 | I use not-os when I need something with less dependencies. | 10:53:04 |
| Mic92 | The thing is debian also depends on perl and systemd for the most part but is still smaller in size. | 10:54:09 |
| sterni | John Ericson: the Platform.linker refactor has made pkgsLLVM use bfd and it has taken me till now to notice lol | 18:01:26 |
| sterni | shows how inactive I was on that front, I guess… | 18:01:36 |
