| 10 Jan 2025 |
 K900 | And be ready to deal with the fallout | 15:49:19 |
 Greg Hellings | And, I presume, a mention in the release notes is worthy for this? | 15:49:36 |
| K900 | Probably yes | 15:50:48 |
 emily | if ICU version is going to drift from what Apple tracks we should maybe reconsider coupling darwin.ICU to it. cc Randy Eckenrode | 16:02:21 |
| K900 | Is darwin.ICU just the system version of ICU? | 16:03:05 |
| emily | it's a source build of the version Apple ships | 16:03:23 |
| emily | which is a fork of ICU with a bunch of changes | 16:03:27 |
| emily | that some packages require | 16:03:32 |
| emily | we switched to using it for icu this cycle but I think on kind of just a "just because" basis | 16:03:43 |
| emily | they do stay reasonably up-to-date (currently versions are synced) | 16:03:59 |
| K900 | I like making the environment more like native | 16:04:02 |
| K900 | But I also like having one version of thing in nixpkgs | 16:04:12 |
| K900 | Complicated | 16:04:17 |
| Greg Hellings | The more native it stays, the less someone who builds with it needs to ship to users | 16:04:26 |
| emily | indeed | 16:04:35 |
| emily | I think libffi = darwin.libffi is right | 16:04:40 |
| emily | because upstream libffi just did not take some aarch64-darwin stuff | 16:04:49 |
| emily | and packages expect it | 16:04:53 |
| emily | but for ICU I'm not so sure | 16:04:56 |
| emily | bigger API surface, more version-to-version variation, less required by most stuff | 16:05:10 |
| emily | not true, we build Apple's ICU from source | 16:05:32 |
| emily | so it's still /nix/store | 16:05:35 |
| Greg Hellings | Ah. So much for that savings | 16:06:09 |
 Randy Eckenrode | Darwin ICU as default also fixes some Bun issues with npm. | 16:10:59 |
| Greg Hellings | RIP my home computers while I build all of the packages that depend on ICfu | 16:13:50 |
| Greg Hellings | Well that was a fat finger typo, but lol | 16:14:05 |
| K900 | Yeah don't even try that | 16:14:13 |
| Greg Hellings | Too late, I'm 9 minutes into the build | 16:14:25 |
| Greg Hellings | 100,000 to go | 16:14:30 |
| Randy Eckenrode | In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
if ICU version is going to drift from what Apple tracks we should maybe reconsider coupling darwin.ICU to it. cc Randy Eckenrode I assume Apple will update to ICU76 for the next major release. I don’t know whether they do updates mid-cycle or not. It’s at least not like before where we were way behind what Apple ships. We’re only a month or so behind due to source release delays. | 16:27:56 |
