| 9 Jan 2026 |
 Katalin 🔪 | right, they have a launch agent for killing gpg-agent when the user logs out instead | 16:19:08 |
| Katalin 🔪 | I wonder how they set it up | 16:19:15 |
 Ivy | still doesnt properly manage the sockets tho | 16:19:35 |
| Ivy | utterly a hack | 16:19:40 |
| Katalin 🔪 | mhm | 16:19:50 |
| Ivy | additionally this does nothing https://github.com/nix-community/home-manager/blob/0e4217b2c4827e71e2e612accccb01981c16afda/modules/services/gpg-agent.nix#L451-L453 | 16:21:03 |
| Ivy | as the names are far not what gpg actually wants | 16:21:20 |
| Ivy | nor does it know how to get them | 16:21:27 |
| Ivy | the only way to get them is through launch_activate_socket | 16:21:42 |
| Ivy | they could be used as the names but then there would have to be major translation to the real names | 16:22:20 |
| Ivy | which have to be "ssh", "extra", "browser" and always finally "std" | 16:22:37 |
| Ivy | this commit which added that literally seems to be untested https://github.com/nix-community/home-manager/commit/ef506124579ff6280a43a9596bb2a5049872bf8e as it will not work | 16:24:04 |
| Ivy | additionally, patching this is hard as it shouldnt actually be used the gpgConf we need to wrap gpg-agent | 16:26:19 |
| Ivy | i personally have it working but it required a lot of changes | 16:27:49 |
| Ivy | including this https://github.com/auscyber/dotfiles/blob/e69c5ae454167f21dbaca7eace8e50e69d5d3454/overlays/literal.nix#L33C1-L39C4 https://github.com/auscyber/dotfiles/blob/master/packages/gpg/default.nix | 16:28:35 |
| Ivy | * additionally, patching this is hard as it shouldnt actually be used the gpgPkg we need to wrap gpg-agent | 16:32:41 |
 emily | you don't have to use launchd socket activation though? | 16:50:08 |
| emily | you can have GnuPG manage the sockets itself IIRC | 16:50:11 |
| emily | (but yeah, socket activation is nicer. I wrote a version of that C program in Rust long ago) | 16:50:28 |
| 10 Jan 2026 |
 Noah | is there an easy way to add applications to startup items on macos? | 11:37:45 |
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