| 25 Apr 2026 |
 Ihar Hrachyshka | (god I love the quality of this system. rock solid OS.) | 18:03:31 |
 samasaur | yeah i'm ssh'd into this machine from my laptop, but i'm also doing the reproducer in that article and it appears to be working fine... | 18:04:04 |
| samasaur | ah okay got some in TIME_WAIT. unsure why the reproducer didn't do anything but curling random sites did | 18:05:10 |
| samasaur | but they still drop to 0. i guess it's fixed in 15.7.3 ? | 18:05:27 |
| Ihar Hrachyshka | my machine was at 52d. I guess I haven't built anything in 3d. :) | 18:05:45 |
| samasaur | what 26.x are you on specifically? | 18:06:12 |
| samasaur | bc 15.7.3 is from back in december... | 18:06:32 |
| Ihar Hrachyshka | $ sw_vers
ProductName: macOS
ProductVersion: 26.2
BuildVersion: 25C56
| 18:06:49 |
| samasaur | same release day | 18:07:16 |
| 26 Apr 2026 |
 Randy Eckenrode | emily, thanks for the reviews. I updated the source release bump to fix the identified issues and responded regarding the cp patch. | 04:00:44 |
| Randy Eckenrode | Have you had a chance to take another look at https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/511070? If you think we should wait until after the freeze (for 26.11), that’s understandable. We can live with the workarounds for 26.05. | 04:03:04 |
| Randy Eckenrode | Also, of course Apple would release the 26.4 source releases right when I’m ready to merge this update. | 04:03:20 |
| Randy Eckenrode | And another ld64 update. | 04:04:02 |
| Randy Eckenrode | It looks like it adds some VisionOS stuff. Meh. | 04:04:44 |
 John Wiegley | emily: hello | 05:36:32 |
| John Wiegley | Trying to dig deeper into that issue I reported earlier today. | 05:37:07 |
 emily | it was on my list but it got very late, sorry about cutting it close. I'm going to get to it today | 11:00:26 |
| Randy Eckenrode | There are some fixes in the 26.4 libiconv. I don’t know whether they address the Autoconf issue, but I’m going to try doing another source release update today after merging the 26.3 update. | 12:27:14 |
| emily | look at what I found while digging into the libiconv stuff: https://gitweb.git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=autoconf.git;a=commitdiff;h=e1bbc9b93cdff61d70719c224b37970e065008bb | 15:55:40 |
| emily | we're pioneers | 15:55:48 |
| Randy Eckenrode | I updated just Apple’s libiconv and disabled all checks. I’m currently boostrapping with a goal to see whether I can build man-db. | 16:02:34 |
| Randy Eckenrode | Now if only every other build system did that (and GCC finally upstreamed __builtin_available support). | 16:03:44 |
| Randy Eckenrode | * Now if only every other build system did that (and __builtin_available finally got upstreamed into GCC). | 16:04:32 |
| emily | alright, left a comment on the iconv PR | 16:31:10 |
| Randy Eckenrode | I’m inclined to drop it for now if we’re going to end up with just these handfuls of packages. It’s similar to the approach I took dropping the automatic -liconv that ended up being a handful of packages. | 16:35:27 |
| Randy Eckenrode | It also appears that Apple is making an attempt at fixing some of the behaviors. man-db no longer hangs during its build (as of libiconv-114) even though its tests still fail (currently about half way there to see if 115.whatever fixes it). | 16:36:14 |
| Randy Eckenrode | I do wish Apple would actually work a bit more with FreeBSD instead of just keeping their fixes separate in a mess of #ifdef __APPLE__. | 16:38:04 |
| Randy Eckenrode | * I do wish Apple would actually work a bit more with FreeBSD instead of just keeping their fixes separate in a mess of #ifdef __APPLE__. They might even get some fixes to problems on their platform. | 16:38:18 |
| emily | FWIW, autoreconfHook actually propagates gettext. it looks like the actual reason this ever fails for any package is https://gitlab.com/grobian/html2text/-/merge_requests/57:
We also
need to make sure autoreconf recognizes that it needs to run autopoint
to install the gettext macros, which it does heuristically by checking
whether AM_GNU_GETTEXT_VERSION is used,
| 16:39:38 |
| Randy Eckenrode | Or like the libffi stuff getting merged, so we don’t have to build a fork and can have the fixes upstream. | 16:39:38 |
