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31 Jan 2026
@ihar.hrachyshka:matrix.orgIhar Hrachyshka hexa: if my theory ^ is correct (which is hard to believe), then I'd advise to bump max-silent-time settings on infra to 4h. all nixpkgs cases where maxSilent is overridden in meta are for 4h. 03:59:00
@dont.wanna.tell:matrix.orgMartin HäckerAnyone at FOSDEM and would like to meet?10:12:16
@weethet:catgirl.cloudWeetHet Why if there no command not found database in the nixpkgs-* tarballs only in the nixos-* ones? 17:56:35
@k900:0upti.meK900Some stupid channel scripts thing18:03:10
@k900:0upti.meK900Didn't we drop it anyway18:03:17
@k900:0upti.meK900Please just use nix-index18:03:22
1 Feb 2026
@weethet:catgirl.cloudWeetHetErm, no? It's good enough if I don't want to pull in nix-index14:14:12
@weethet:catgirl.cloudWeetHetJust because it is only included in tarballs and not on github doesn't make it a stupid channel thing14:14:39
@hrmn123:matrix.orgDucky changed their display name from mrdukydev to Ducky.23:10:59
@hrmn123:matrix.orgDucky changed their profile picture.23:11:28
@hrmn123:matrix.orgDucky changed their profile picture.23:14:54
2 Feb 2026
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy Eckenrodeaaaaaaaaaaaaah00:55:27
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy EckenrodeI’ve been trying to make sure that Swift uses the real path to the stdlib when it sets the rpath. Apparently it’s mpv’s Meson that does that.00:55:57
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy EckenrodeBlah00:55:58
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy Eckenrode My code seems to work though. If you use the hidden -toolchain-stdlib-rpath argument, it resolves the rpath to the stdlib path of /nix/store/ss85ygcfnr99yjdk23li8v8s56ngvcl3-stdlib-6.2.3-dev/lib/swift/macosx. Which is wrong, but its heart is in the right place. 00:58:29
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy EckenrodeI patched the mpv derivation to use the right path. I’m going to punt on fixing the above until it affects the Linux build.03:13:49
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy Eckenrode Before doing that, I want to revist the Swift package stuff. It’s too magic. I’m thinking now of just putting stuff in an attribute that you reference, so to set up SwiftPM, you add foo-package.sdist or something to buildInputs. 03:14:47
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy EckenrodeIs there any precedent for doing a vendor tarball as a derivation for each piece of the tarball?03:15:03
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy Eckenrode I am also considering reintroducing fetchSwiftPMDeps or something to that effect. 04:29:41
@debtquity:matrix.orgdebtquityoooh, the swift compiler error is fixed, yay04:43:33
@samasaur:matrix.orgsamasaurre:prebuilts, are you still hoping to get that to work? Given that packages can have traits now I imagine that isn't a perfect solution06:38:58
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy EckenrodeNo. Traits is one of the reasons. The other is fighting how Swift wants to do things with the stdlib has been a huge time suck.11:32:00
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy EckenrodeI expect prebuilts to be similarly bad.11:32:15
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy Eckenrode I understand now why the previously separate lib output was done the way it was. Swift does not really support finding host libs and .swiftmodules separately from the stdlib. 11:42:58
3 Feb 2026
@agar.mu:matrix.orgm.a.cups still works (at least for me). it ended up being a bit tedious to do it from my device though and i ended up setting a print server for myself on my university account. as such i don't have the bandwidth to continue working on this personally (thought it should be doable, and i might try to work on it over spring break)05:36:47
@agar.mu:matrix.orgm.a.* cups still works. it ended up being a bit tedious to do it from my device though and i ended up setting a print server for myself on my university account. as such i don't have the bandwidth to continue working on this personally (thought it should be doable, and i might try to work on it over spring break)05:36:55
@glepage:matrix.orgGaétan Lepage FYI, llvmPackages_22.llvm is broken on darwin. 14:18:33
@niklaskorz:matrix.orgniklaskorz one test failing: LLVM-Unit :: Support/./SupportTests/ProgramEnvTest/TestExecuteEmptyEnvironment 14:28:55
@niklaskorz:matrix.orgniklaskorz
/nix/var/nix/builds/nix-15173-3769289556/llvm-src-22.1.0-rc2/llvm/build/unittests/Support/./SupportTests --gtest_filter=ProgramEnvTest.TestExecuteEmptyEnvironment
--
dyld[8946]: Library not loaded: /nix/store/qr5yw8vvjaiq6x67zvj36gg9spbkkpc8-llvm-22.1.0-rc2-lib/lib/libLLVM.dylib
  Referenced from: <A561A548-9CCB-3735-87FE-26D09C29CF32> /nix/var/nix/builds/nix-15173-3769289556/llvm-src-22.1.0-rc2/llvm/build/unittests/Support/SupportTests
  Reason: tried: '/nix/store/qr5yw8vvjaiq6x67zvj36gg9spbkkpc8-llvm-22.1.0-rc2-lib/lib/libLLVM.dylib' (no such file), '/System/Volumes/Preboot/Cryptexes/OS/nix/store/qr5yw8vvjaiq6x67zvj36gg9spbkkpc8-llvm-22.1.0-rc2-lib/lib/libLLVM.dylib' (no such file), '/nix/store/qr5yw8vvjaiq6x67zvj36gg9spbkkpc8-llvm-22.1.0-rc2-lib/lib/libLLVM.dylib' (no such file)
/nix/var/nix/builds/nix-15173-3769289556/llvm-src-22.1.0-rc2/llvm/unittests/Support/ProgramTest.cpp:704: Failure
Expected equality of these values:
  0
  RetCode
    Which is: -2


/nix/var/nix/builds/nix-15173-3769289556/llvm-src-22.1.0-rc2/llvm/unittests/Support/ProgramTest.cpp:704
Expected equality of these values:
  0
  RetCode
    Which is: -2
14:29:33
@niklaskorz:matrix.orgniklaskorzwell at least it looks like it never worked on darwin, nobody tested it when llvm 22 was added two weeks ago14:32:06

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