| 21 Jan 2026 |
 eveeifyeve | I will benchmark it on decent hardware M4 Macbook pro first with everything pretty much closed, just to see if it's worth it. | 13:23:44 |
 Katalin 🔪 | anyway here's my theory on what's going on: the package build sets HOME=/build explicitly, expecting that to be the build dir, which it is on linux, but it isn't on darwin | 13:23:52 |
| eveeifyeve | * I will benchmark it on decent hardware M4 Macbook pro first with everything pretty much closed, just to see if it's worth it first. | 13:23:59 |
| Katalin 🔪 | and then whatever prints this message picks it up and says "this is garbage, let me reset it again" | 13:24:07 |
| Katalin 🔪 | and this isn't a problem on linux because there the correct path is indeed /build | 13:24:26 |
 Steve | OK. I'll try that. Thanks. | 13:24:47 |
| Katalin 🔪 | remove your user from /etc/passwd again btw. | 13:25:17 |
| Steve | I did already. Thanks :) | 13:26:03 |
| Katalin 🔪 | okay, turns out this message comes from nix itself, so this is wrong | 13:28:12 |
| Katalin 🔪 | but yeah whatever. do what K900 said | 13:28:28 |
| Steve | I have another linux X86 machine. I'll use this. Thanks @everyone for your support ! | 13:29:32 |
| Katalin 🔪 | that works too | 13:30:02 |
 Austin Horstman | 
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| Austin Horstman | left it on overnight.. yikes | 14:00:27 |
 Randy Eckenrode | Swift was even worse. | 14:02:01 |
| Randy Eckenrode | I say increase the Hydra timeout for Firefox to 24h or something like that. | 14:02:24 |
| Austin Horstman | Alright, was curious what changed recently. If that's expected it's good to know. agree that it would need an adjustment on build server if its going to be the new length of builds for it | 14:03:55 |
 Ihar Hrachyshka | I'm also looking at enabling pgo... | 14:16:15 |
| Ihar Hrachyshka | Austin Horstman: note that community builder is limited to cores (2 per job?) so it's very slow for firefox regardless. | 14:29:46 |
| eveeifyeve | How long did swift take you? I am curious.. | 14:29:48 |
| eveeifyeve | * How long did swift take you to build? I am curious.. | 14:29:59 |
| Austin Horstman | i used my own mac for that | 14:30:03 |
| Randy Eckenrode | I killed it after eight to ten hours. It wasn’t done yet. I may enable it for the release, but there is no way I can work with cycle times that bad. | 14:30:47 |
| Randy Eckenrode | There is actually a flag for ld64 to limit LTO because it’s too slow even for upstream. | 14:31:18 |
| eveeifyeve | I would say it would take a day to build at least right? | 14:31:45 |
| eveeifyeve | * I would say it would take a day to build at least right just assuming? | 14:31:57 |
| eveeifyeve | I was thinking of giving it a crack of a build overnight while I am sleeping. | 14:32:16 |
| Randy Eckenrode | Maybe. For Hydra, that’s going to be even worse. They’re still using M1s. I have an M3 Max with more RAM. | 14:32:44 |
| eveeifyeve | * I was thinking of giving it a crack of a build overnight while I am sleeping just to try and see If I can spot any issues. | 14:32:49 |
| eveeifyeve | I have a M4 macbook pro with 16gb of ram. | 14:33:05 |
