| 21 Jan 2026 |
 Katalin 🔪 | remove your user from /etc/passwd again btw. | 13:25:17 |
 Steve | I did already. Thanks :) | 13:26:03 |
| Katalin 🔪 | okay, turns out this message comes from nix itself, so this is wrong | 13:28:12 |
| Katalin 🔪 | but yeah whatever. do what K900 said | 13:28:28 |
| Steve | I have another linux X86 machine. I'll use this. Thanks @everyone for your support ! | 13:29:32 |
| Katalin 🔪 | that works too | 13:30:02 |
 Austin Horstman | 
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| Austin Horstman | left it on overnight.. yikes | 14:00:27 |
 Randy Eckenrode | Swift was even worse. | 14:02:01 |
| Randy Eckenrode | I say increase the Hydra timeout for Firefox to 24h or something like that. | 14:02:24 |
| Austin Horstman | Alright, was curious what changed recently. If that's expected it's good to know. agree that it would need an adjustment on build server if its going to be the new length of builds for it | 14:03:55 |
 Ihar Hrachyshka | I'm also looking at enabling pgo... | 14:16:15 |
| Ihar Hrachyshka | Austin Horstman: note that community builder is limited to cores (2 per job?) so it's very slow for firefox regardless. | 14:29:46 |
 eveeifyeve | How long did swift take you? I am curious.. | 14:29:48 |
| eveeifyeve | * How long did swift take you to build? I am curious.. | 14:29:59 |
| Austin Horstman | i used my own mac for that | 14:30:03 |
| Randy Eckenrode | I killed it after eight to ten hours. It wasn’t done yet. I may enable it for the release, but there is no way I can work with cycle times that bad. | 14:30:47 |
| Randy Eckenrode | There is actually a flag for ld64 to limit LTO because it’s too slow even for upstream. | 14:31:18 |
| eveeifyeve | I would say it would take a day to build at least right? | 14:31:45 |
| eveeifyeve | * I would say it would take a day to build at least right just assuming? | 14:31:57 |
| eveeifyeve | I was thinking of giving it a crack of a build overnight while I am sleeping. | 14:32:16 |
| Randy Eckenrode | Maybe. For Hydra, that’s going to be even worse. They’re still using M1s. I have an M3 Max with more RAM. | 14:32:44 |
| eveeifyeve | * I was thinking of giving it a crack of a build overnight while I am sleeping just to try and see If I can spot any issues. | 14:32:49 |
| eveeifyeve | I have a M4 macbook pro with 16gb of ram. | 14:33:05 |
| eveeifyeve | I hope that is enough... | 14:33:22 |
| Ihar Hrachyshka | I have my own machine(s) so it's not that big of a deal (few hours) | 14:34:18 |
| eveeifyeve | But I should look into having a remote builder using my old M1 and M2 macbook pros with 8gb of ram. | 14:34:22 |
| Randy Eckenrode | Darwin with LLD by default should be better, but that’s a post-Swift activity. | 14:34:34 |
| eveeifyeve | * But I should look into having a remote builder using my old M1 and M2 macbook pros with 8gb of ram. The only problem is my M1 has a kernel issue and M2 I need to interact with it via a dongle. | 14:35:03 |
| eveeifyeve | * But I should look into having a remote builder using my old M1 and M2 macbook pros with 8gb of ram. The only problem is my M1 has a kernel issue and M2 I need to interact with it via a dongle because screen is fucked. | 14:35:15 |
