| 12 Apr 2026 |
 emily | but maybe I will be able to rootcause it faster than .NET builds 🫠 | 14:03:44 |
 Randy Eckenrode | I don’t think ld64 supports it. I think it’s only ld-prime. | 17:11:34 |
| Randy Eckenrode | Does anyone other than us actually build and use Apple’s fork? The only other place I’m aware it’s used is in the Linux builds of Swift (via swift-corelibs-icu). I assume MacPorts and Homebrew use upstream ICU or link ICU from the SDK. | 17:16:48 |
| Randy Eckenrode | I’ll take a look at it, but I need to rebuild my stdenv. My system does a GC weekly, which deleted all the builds from my work last week. | 17:17:32 |
|  Andrea C set a profile picture. | 18:37:32 |
| 13 Apr 2026 |
 hexa | on the macos builders I often see fsevents claiming lots of swap | 00:23:25 |
| hexa | it feels like it leaks and brings the builder into a virtual memory starvation situation | 00:23:56 |
| hexa | I can just kill it and that gets me back 20G mem/swap (on a 16GB machine) and the machine is much more responsive again | 00:24:35 |
| hexa | the question I want to ask is: what kind of utter garbage is this? | 00:24:59 |
| hexa | the question I actually want answered is: is this known and is there a workaround that doesn't require manual toil? | 00:25:57 |
| hexa | 
Download | 00:27:19 |
| hexa | that's two days | 00:27:38 |
| hexa | and then it goes all in on swap for 12 hours and doesn't come back | 00:27:59 |
| hexa | once memory pressure apparently increases | 00:28:09 |
| Randy Eckenrode | I’ve noticed that too. 😕 | 00:37:01 |
| hexa | Redacted or Malformed Event | 00:37:42 |
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 axw | Are there any mdm services in nixpkgs that can be declared? So iOS devices can be managed with nix? | 08:45:32 |
 K900 | I don't think that's a thing | 08:55:07 |
 viraptor | Have you got an example of a project that needs it? I'm happy to add it | 09:17:13 |
 niklaskorz | Gram uses SVG icons: https://codeberg.org/GramEditor/gram/src/branch/main/script/mac-icon-to-car | 09:18:05 |
| niklaskorz | https://codeberg.org/GramEditor/gram/src/branch/main/crates/gram/resources/AppIcon.icon | 09:18:23 |
| niklaskorz | I can fallback to the included PNG icons but the SVG-based one they use for their official distribution does look better 😄 | 09:20:10 |
| viraptor | Just coming back to this to confirm - swift-build is used by xcodebuild normally, right? I'm seeing failures of xcbuild not understanding some of the .xcodeproj setup in swift projects and segfaulting - so we'd still have to fix that part of xcbuild? Or did you mean some clever workaround for this that already exists? | 09:34:58 |
| viraptor | No worries, I'll add the svg support | 09:38:56 |
| niklaskorz | swift-build is basically an official open source reimplementation of xcodebuild if I understood correctly | 09:48:03 |
| niklaskorz | as opposed to the inofficial reimplementation of xcbuild that facebook has abandoned years ago | 09:48:14 |
| niklaskorz | * as opposed to the inofficial reimplementation that is xcbuild, which facebook has abandoned years ago | 09:48:38 |
| niklaskorz | the swift-build README states it's used in Xcode which answers your first question I guess | 09:56:39 |
