| 7 Jun 2026 |
|  richarddodd joined the room. | 14:16:38 |
 niklaskorz | Hm I can't actually see any custom darwin linker settings upstream... | 15:55:26 |
| 8 Jun 2026 |
| niklaskorz | We're not overriding the linker, upstream isn't either, so my assumption is we are already linking with ld64 and upstream might be linking with Apple's proprietary linker (ld-prime) although I have no insight in what macOS and Xcode version their Github actions runner is using. | 09:26:25 |
| niklaskorz | They have a custom runner from namespace.so and it's only referenced as "namespace-profile-mac-large" | 09:27:29 |
| niklaskorz | but I now see their own in-repo nix derivation explicitly sets lld as linker on darwin because of the same error 🙃 | 09:29:17 |
| niklaskorz | https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/blob/88e5c6d2faad2a556deb3250357df6f720b7fb3c/nix/build.nix#L253-L257 | 09:29:24 |
 Randy Eckenrode | If upstream is using LLD, that seems the way to go. We're matching how they build on Darwin, and we’re not doing something LLVM says is not supported very well. | 10:32:07 |
| niklaskorz | Understood, thank you! | 11:04:57 |
| Randy Eckenrode | Boo. Apple almost announced macOS 27 would have no name. I wish that were true. | 17:06:00 |
 samasaur | ooh they've "rebuilt search" including how spotlight works | 17:14:53 |
| samasaur | yaaay, we get to check whether symlinked apps in /Applications work, again... | 17:15:17 |
| Randy Eckenrode | The new search UI is okay-ish, but half the time it doesn’t have what I want even though I know it’s there. I hope they’ve really fixed that. | 17:15:19 |
| Randy Eckenrode | Are they mixing updates between all the platforms together? The Liquid Glass updates for macOS looked like a step in the right direction, but I want to see more of that not iOS stuff. | 17:16:29 |
| Randy Eckenrode | I especially don’t care about visionOS. | 17:16:38 |
| samasaur | Seems like they might be mixing everything together because they don't have a bunch of platform-specific new features to show | 17:21:22 |
| Randy Eckenrode | I don’t mind if they go over every single window in macOS showing how it no longer looks as crappy. | 17:22:04 |
| Randy Eckenrode | I also wouldn’t mind a surprise feature like surprise jails/zones/containers. Snow Leopard got GCD in spite of being a “performance” release. | 17:25:58 |
| Randy Eckenrode | (I’m aware that’s some serious wishful thinking.) | 17:26:47 |
| niklaskorz | Fingers crossed for the platforms state of the union then | 17:32:51 |
| Randy Eckenrode | Apple Intelligence will use Spotlight. Is that new? | 17:33:49 |
| Randy Eckenrode | They also talked about a new scheduler, which is pretty wild for the keynote. Definitely want to watch the platform SotU. | 17:34:24 |
| samasaur | I mean given that they're redoing spotlight it seems like maybe they built it for Siri and extended it to use for spotlight | 17:34:44 |
| Randy Eckenrode | Maybe there will be some way to make it see into the store now …. | 17:35:08 |
 samemrecebi | Hey siri where is the nix store? | 17:38:06 |
| Randy Eckenrode | I hope they have an option to keep Siri sounding like a robot. | 17:39:26 |
| Randy Eckenrode | “I found this volume taking up 200 GiB of space. I deleted it for you.” | 17:39:48 |
 Ihar Hrachyshka | When is platform sotu? | 18:18:03 |
| Randy Eckenrode | 1:00 PM PDT | 18:22:12 |
| niklaskorz | 8:00 PM UTC for the lazy Europeans | 18:44:56 |
| niklaskorz | (I'm a lazy European) | 18:45:31 |
