| 12 Jun 2026 |
 Randy Eckenrode | Just some pictures. I like the new sidebars, but I probably would have dialed things back more. I don’t like Liquid Glass (especially on macOS). If you want a glass-like effect, use old Aqua for inspiration not this hard to read, neomorphic crap. | 13:02:27 |
| Randy Eckenrode | This I don’t like. What’s the point? | 13:03:00 |
| Randy Eckenrode | If they really want floating sidebars, bring back drawers. | 13:03:17 |
| Randy Eckenrode | macOS still supports them. The connection window in Mail has one on the bottom IIRC. | 13:03:40 |
 WeetHet | I would like for the to commit to either using glass layers OR the old design | 13:04:34 |
| WeetHet | Now we have glass on top of old design | 13:04:44 |
| WeetHet | 
Download image.png | 13:06:01 |
| WeetHet | This is just bad | 13:06:03 |
| WeetHet | Picture taken directly from the Apple website | 13:06:27 |
| WeetHet | I personally really liked macOS 26 sidebars, they felt very consistent with the whole layered design | 13:07:31 |
 viraptor | They needed some serious tweaking though. There's been a number of times looking at Finder when I was convinced the layout/app is broken before realising it's just using weird sidebars. They have some way to go there...
Ideally I'd just theme the whole thing myself 😒 | 13:20:59 |
| Randy Eckenrode | Make the toolbar solid and put the old Aqua glass back IMO. This gray on gray design is not good. | 13:25:25 |
 Austin Horstman | i wasn't excited about any announcment this year, but i did appreciate finally implementing the slider for preference on how much transparency lol | 13:25:34 |
 Sarah Clark | I don't envy the engineers who are trying to untangle the visual mess left by Alan Dye and his people. | 18:31:39 |
 Winter | @alexfmpe @eveeifyeve @debtquity re: the linux builder stuff, i spent an exuberant amount of time looking into this a while ago (https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/407513, https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/497056), and i'm pretty sure all of the issues have been ironed out as of late April.
please, please provide any form of reproduction instructions for the issues you're running into, and i'd be happy to look into them. thank you! | 19:19:53 |
 debtquity | would the config suffice? | 19:48:39 |
| debtquity | i just ended up spinning up vm with orbstack and used that as x86_64-linux and aarm64-linux builder | 19:50:02 |
 nasso | macOS 27 will be my first major update since i installed determinate nix and nix-darwin im a little scared | 22:03:36 |
 samasaur | either one of those should handle the upgrade fine on their own, you shouldn't run into any issues unless you're (one of) the first to do the update AND apple updated a file in /etc | 22:07:29 |
| samasaur | and even in that case you just move the offending file out of the way | 22:08:00 |
| Randy Eckenrode | https://github.com/apple/truetype-hinting-interpreter-example | 22:35:06 |
| Randy Eckenrode | https://www.swift.org/blog/migrating-truetype-hinting-to-swift/ | 22:40:28 |
| Winter | i’d need to see what you were pinning (or tell me if you use channels or flakes or what/give lockfile &c…) but probably | 22:41:04 |
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