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27 May 2026
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy Eckenrodehttps://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/51919510:32:06
@k900:0upti.meK900The fuuuuuuck10:33:48
@k900:0upti.meK900 Does upstream even know 10:34:09
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy EckenrodeI don’t think so. It only affects GLX not KosmicCrisp.11:15:46
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy EckenrodeI also don’t know whether it happens in a native build. We could need another option set.11:16:50
@k900:0upti.meK900Native how?11:18:46
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy EckenrodeWith Xcode and letting Meson autodetect features.11:19:23
@k900:0upti.meK900 https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/commit/7f07783569ea2fb2d0922cc72ff7c25d1cc7dd20 11:21:05
@k900:0upti.meK900OK so this is part 211:21:08
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy EckenrodeOh, that. The timeout is unrelated to that. It’s the megadriver thing.11:22:28
@k900:0upti.meK900Yeah no11:22:47
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy Eckenrode I forgot I had that st_mtim thing in there. 11:22:57
@k900:0upti.meK900I have not found reports of the megadriver thing upstream11:23:13
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy EckenrodeThe megadriver thing is what I was talking about re: a native build. The other should be fixed upstream.11:23:49
@k900:0upti.meK900Yeah11:23:57
@k900:0upti.meK900 Well it's still clearly a bug 11:24:05
@k900:0upti.meK900 The scripts don't agree on the suffix 11:24:54
@k900:0upti.meK900 But also here's a weird question 11:25:51
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy Eckenrode What I didn’t check was whether any other driver used a platform extension, or if everything used .so. Can any of that even be built on Windows? 11:25:54
@k900:0upti.meK900Do we even need to build llvmpipe on Darwin11:25:56
@k900:0upti.meK900Is there a situation where AppleGL does not have a software fallback/11:26:09
@k900:0upti.meK900* Is there a situation where AppleGL does not have a software fallback?11:26:12
@k900:0upti.meK900 Is there even hardware where a software fallback needs to exist? 11:26:25
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy EckenrodeIIRC yes because otherwise the GLX stuff doesn’t build. You need some Gallium driver.11:26:32
@k900:0upti.meK900Fun11:29:13
@vcunat:matrix.orgvcunatSo no reason to delay merging that PR? Or merge together with next mesa update to save those linux rebuilds?12:14:18
@k900:0upti.meK900I would prefer just fetching the upstream commit unconditionally12:14:46
@k900:0upti.meK900At least for the other thing12:14:50
@k900:0upti.meK900For the megadriver thing, maybe someone should ask upstream12:15:02
@vcunat:matrix.orgvcunatIt's just temporary.12:15:59

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