| 21 May 2025 |
 emily | it's just a matter of getting an SFP module that gets it right. I know the FiberMall ones apparently do but they're pricey | 15:13:33 |
 matthewcroughan - nix.zone | I'm a bit scared of these rando sfp+ only switches being loud and hot | 15:18:23 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | with ridiculous fans inside | 15:18:32 |
| emily | I don't see why they'd be louder and hotter than something that has to pump 8 ports of 10GBASE-T built-in | 15:19:07 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | the fact that they are managed and not running FOSS annoys me | 15:24:37 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | but I guess I have no choice at this price | 15:24:47 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | I didn't expect to spend the whole day window shopping, thanks emily <3 | 15:29:07 |
| emily | inb4 wait how come I can't set up VLANs with this unmanaged switch :p | 15:29:45 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | oh true I guess that might be a possible desire | 15:30:00 |
| emily | if you really want unmanaged, https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006968549282.html | 15:30:15 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | I was thinking about just having two networks though, I.e two IPs | 15:30:17 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | to prevent DDOS | 15:30:21 |
| emily | 22 more bucks over the managed one | 15:30:28 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | I was thinking maybe a vlan network would just be 1G and that I wouldn't want 10G vlans | 15:31:24 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | since I still have 4x 1G ports on the bpi-r4 | 15:31:51 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | what does unmanaged mean anyway | 15:32:26 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | does it mean that they are still running linux and just don't provide you with a console/ | 15:32:38 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | * does it mean that they are still running linux and just don't provide you with a console? | 15:32:41 |
| emily | my understanding: switches have a specialized ASIC that does the actual switching stuff. managed has a computer to the side to configure the ASIC. unmanaged does not. | 15:33:50 |
| emily | I believe you can run OpenWrt on some managed switches. | 15:34:02 |
| emily | no idea if it's any good. | 15:34:05 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | I would prefer it to mean there is absolutely no linux, or control plane, etc | 15:34:10 |
| emily | https://svanheule.net/switches/models | 15:34:28 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | That would be the ultimate setup for me yeah | 15:34:39 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | I can't believe they use linux for this | 15:34:56 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | why not just make some micropython/embassy | 15:35:07 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | guess they don't make any money from the feature, so don't spend any time making it any better | 15:35:27 |
| emily | https://svanheule.net/switches/tl-st1008f | 15:35:31 |
| emily | could try and find one of these. no idea if OpenWrt even works well on them. | 15:35:46 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | what even is this site | 15:36:01 |
