| 29 Jul 2025 |
 emily | I mean I guess it's just a protocol… | 14:40:27 |
| emily | nothing's stopping you | 14:40:30 |
| emily | if you're nuts | 14:40:32 |
| emily | I bet some HPC cluster is doing crimes like that | 14:40:48 |
 Sandro 🐧 | but do you then want to run the normal ifstate also with python3Minimal? You kinda want to do that as otherwise you have bugs that only exist in initrd and then we have a random application in userland running python3Minimal which we don't really want to 😅 | 14:40:52 |
| emily | it's like the management port on DSA switches! | 14:40:56 |
 hexa (clat on linux when) | as long as it doesn't require any features not covered by it, why not | 14:41:13 |
| emily | stage 1 environment is already moderately different tbf, but yeah I'm not sure. I wouldn't be super mad about python3Minimal in stage 2 for something core like this | 14:41:22 |
| hexa (clat on linux when) | the use case of having it in initrd makes it preferable | 14:41:25 |
| emily | I mean really the answer is don't use Python for this layer of the stack | 14:41:28 |
| emily | but sounds like upstream already knows/is working on that | 14:41:32 |
| Sandro 🐧 | python has nothing for such inbuilt things, so we also need to run all tests and everything with python3Minimal as otherwise we might sneak some bug by | 14:41:45 |
| emily | I'm also fine with just having huge initrds if it's not a problem for people | 14:41:49 |
| emily | but it does make it less appealing I think | 14:42:13 |
| hexa (clat on linux when) | 170 vs 67 MiB | 14:42:23 |
| hexa (clat on linux when) | * 171 vs 67 MiB | 14:42:34 |
| emily | huh minimal is still that big? | 14:42:44 |
| hexa (clat on linux when) | on master | 14:42:51 |
 Marcel | In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
but sounds like upstream already knows/is working on that Yeah I've already suggested that I'll start working on it. But he wants to do it himself, but between 40h work there is only so much time | 14:42:55 |
| hexa (clat on linux when) | and before compression | 14:43:06 |
| Sandro 🐧 | ➜ command nix-shell -p "python3Minimal.withPackages(ps : with ps; [ jsonschema pyroute2 pyyaml setproctitle ])"
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| 14:44:59 |
| Sandro 🐧 | urg | 14:45:01 |
| Sandro 🐧 | and fails in flit-core
Building wheel from /build/source/flit_core
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "<frozen runpy>", line 198, in _run_module_as_main
File "<frozen runpy>", line 88, in _run_code
File "/build/source/flit_core/flit_core/wheel.py", line 259, in <module>
main()
~~~~^^
File "/build/source/flit_core/flit_core/wheel.py", line 255, in main
info = make_wheel_in(pyproj_toml, outdir)
File "/build/source/flit_core/flit_core/wheel.py", line 222, in make_wheel_in
wb = WheelBuilder.from_ini_path(ini_path, fp)
File "/build/source/flit_core/flit_core/wheel.py", line 89, in from_ini_path
return cls(
directory, module, metadata, entrypoints, target_fp, ini_info.data_directory
)
File "/build/source/flit_core/flit_core/wheel.py", line 78, in __init__
self.wheel_zip = zipfile.ZipFile(target_fp, 'w',
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
compression=zipfile.ZIP_DEFLATED)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
File "/nix/store/2bh3ww7jpp1cvd921r3lmsw1kkgrycb5-python3-minimal-3.13.5/lib/python3.13/zipfile/__init__.py", line 1335, in __init__
_check_compression(compression)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^
File "/nix/store/2bh3ww7jpp1cvd921r3lmsw1kkgrycb5-python3-minimal-3.13.5/lib/python3.13/zipfile/__init__.py", line 754, in _check_compression
raise RuntimeError(
"Compression requires the (missing) zlib module")
RuntimeError: Compression requires the (missing) zlib module
| 14:45:30 |
| hexa (clat on linux when) | meh | 14:45:42 |
| hexa (clat on linux when) | yeah, nvm | 14:45:51 |
| hexa (clat on linux when) | bootstrapping the package set doesn't work with minimal | 14:45:59 |
| hexa (clat on linux when) | not sure how I forgot | 14:46:08 |
| hexa (clat on linux when) | python3Small when | 14:46:26 |
| hexa (clat on linux when) | * python3Smol when | 14:46:31 |
| hexa (clat on linux when) | * python3Smol when | 14:46:42 |
