| 22 Nov 2025 |
 hexa | for headless setups we have networkd and ifstate | 23:31:13 |
| hexa | and for headful ones the only reasonable contender is networkmanager | 23:31:31 |
| hexa | mellanox did develop ifupdown2, which provided ifreload for gradual migrations between old and new config, really neat | 23:32:03 |
| hexa | * cumulus did develop ifupdown2, which provided ifreload for gradual migrations between old and new config, really neat | 23:32:13 |
| hexa | not sure how well maintained it is these days, but it builds upon the config format established by ifupdown itself, which is … not so nice | 23:33:01 |
| hexa | https://github.com/CumulusNetworks/ifupdown2 | 23:33:02 |
| hexa | and of course there is ifupdown-ng (e.g. provided on alpine) in that ifupdown lineage https://github.com/ifupdown-ng/ifupdown-ng | 23:34:00 |
| hexa | I haven't seen anyone ask for the last two tbh | 23:34:12 |
| hexa | https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/238159 | 23:34:35 |
| hexa | oh, someone requested ifupdown-ng, my mistake 🙂 | 23:34:43 |
| 23 Nov 2025 |
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 elisaado | ah I see | 12:07:55 |
| elisaado | yeah fair enough | 12:08:12 |
| elisaado | makes sense, thank you both :) | 12:08:16 |
 debtquity | since we shouldn't use the networking.* options, is there an recommendation for networking.firewall.* options? | 23:50:52 |
| 24 Nov 2025 |
| elisaado | I guess networking.nftables.tables.<name>.content, though that falls under networking.* as well strictly speaking :P | 00:27:02 |
 K900 | Those are fine | 04:32:47 |
