| 28 Jul 2025 |
 Zhaofeng Li | (with a bit of wireguard and bird magic maybe I can make them join my existing cluster, but yeah, extremely cursedness) | 16:33:29 |
 magic_rb | I went into it enthusiastically trying to make it work, but the whole thing is rotten from the core. | 16:33:42 |
| Zhaofeng Li | * (with a bit of wireguard and bird magic maybe I can make them join my existing cluster, but yeah, extreme cursedness) | 16:34:39 |
| magic_rb | etcd fucking sucks, its slow as hell. The manifests gets huge very quickly, i can never remember all of the obscure options, networking is a mess, if you want to use the new gateway api youll end up reading issues trying to figure what is or isnt supported, eventually reading tests and source code like me. | 16:34:44 |
| Zhaofeng Li | can't say much about the gateway api, but etcd basically just works for me though my setup is far from complex | 16:37:22 |
 emily | it should almost certainly be a systemd daemon, I think | 17:31:58 |
