| 4 Jul 2025 |
 magic_rb | Oh, gotta learn that, i havent used any of the other nettools in years but i still use netstat | 21:23:28 |
 hexa (clat on linux when) | so, any takers? I'm thinking about ripping out nettools from every module that I can find next | 22:20:27 |
| hexa (clat on linux when) | networkmanager on the iso and suggested in the default config is a reality now as well | 22:22:22 |
| hexa (clat on linux when) | * networkmanager on the iso and as a suggestion in the default config is a reality now as well | 22:22:49 |
| magic_rb | In reply to @hexa:lossy.network
so, any takers? I'm thinking about ripping out nettools from every module that I can find next I will if still needed by tomorrow noon ish | 22:23:26 |
| hexa (clat on linux when) | sgtm | 22:23:36 |
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 emily | https://serd.es/2025/05/08/Switch-project-pt1.html
https://serd.es/2025/06/23/Switch-project-pt2.html
https://serd.es/2025/07/04/Switch-project-pt3.html
not Nix but "This is part 3 of my ongoing series about LATENTRED, my project to create an open source 1U managed Ethernet switch from scratch." | 12:52:23 |
| emily | who's gonna get NixOS on it | 12:53:27 |
 Emantor | I quickly skimmed the articles and it looks like this is a purely FPGA based switch design, so my guess is that the CPU is running within the FPGA if there is need for one. The specs of the FPGA look like it may be barely able to run linux, however I would not bet on that. | 12:59:31 |
| Emantor | If you want something that can run Linux it is a lot easier to look at the switches that OpenWRT recently added. | 13:01:03 |
| hexa (clat on linux when) | or buy one of the funny whitelabel switches that (used to) run cumulus linux | 13:03:44 |
| hexa (clat on linux when) | they come with onie, an installer environment that explicitly supports installing things to it | 13:04:35 |
| hexa (clat on linux when) | fun post wrt that https://blog.benjojo.co.uk/post/dell-switch-hacking | 13:04:59 |
| hexa (clat on linux when) | the problem will of course be broadcom firmware/drivers in most scenarios 🤪 | 13:05:19 |
 Molly Miller | i was about to say, that trick only works if you have a kernel driver for the asic, right? | 13:05:34 |
| Molly Miller | i have a number of whitelabel onie switches at work but they're all broadcom asics | 13:05:47 |
| hexa (clat on linux when) | the alternative is something from mellanox, but those are sfp+/sfp28 and larger only iirc | 13:05:49 |
| hexa (clat on linux when) | yeah, the mellanox ones have mainline support | 13:06:03 |
| hexa (clat on linux when) | the broadcom ones are fckd | 13:06:13 |
| Emantor | Broadcom, more like: https://github.com/mwarning/chaos-sticker-collection/blob/9f0415d815bbef4a01bf55bc3fe57bb75e4247bd/images/brokencom/brokencom.svg#L4 | 13:06:24 |
| hexa (clat on linux when) | so no copper connections | 13:06:27 |
| emily | yeah I hadn't actually read them when I said that 😆 | 13:06:43 |
| emily | I just saw "managed" | 13:06:47 |
| hexa (clat on linux when) | though you can do dacs and copper sfps | 13:06:49 |
| Molly Miller | short of yanking the cumulus kernel sources package and switchd binary debs from the nvidia mirror and hacking something together | 13:06:55 |
