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28 Jun 2021
@matthewcroughan:defenestrate.itmatthewcroughan - nix.zone * I gotta fork it to work with flakes, I did some hacking on it on stream last night20:56:23
29 Jun 2021
@moritz.hedtke:matrix.orgmoritz.hedtke joined the room.00:59:34
@davidak:matrix.orgdavidakFYI: this is how a linux distro with immutable root and appimage apps present itself https://rlxos.dev/ it seem to exist since may this year (?) and is already more user friendly than nixos. it has a graphical installer, welcome-tour app, graphical package manager and using it looks straight forward21:18:08
@matthewcroughan:defenestrate.itmatthewcroughan - nix.zoneFancy website, no tech.21:19:09
@matthewcroughan:defenestrate.itmatthewcroughan - nix.zoneBad English.21:19:12
@matthewcroughan:defenestrate.itmatthewcroughan - nix.zoneI mean, sure, nice website.21:19:26
@matthewcroughan:defenestrate.itmatthewcroughan - nix.zoneIt takes investigation to understand Nix. This will always be the case.21:19:36
@matthewcroughan:defenestrate.itmatthewcroughan - nix.zoneHowever, I can tell you, I knew NixOS was the best, before I understood it.21:19:45
@matthewcroughan:defenestrate.itmatthewcroughan - nix.zoneI'm not saying there is no room for improvement. What I am saying is that what we have right now absolutely captivates people.21:20:06
@matthewcroughan:defenestrate.itmatthewcroughan - nix.zoneAll we need to do is let people know about it. The website as it is today is a great blend of tech/normie21:20:31
@matthewcroughan:defenestrate.itmatthewcroughan - nix.zoneThose asciinema videos we have on the front page blow people's minds. 21:21:04
@matthewcroughan:defenestrate.itmatthewcroughan - nix.zone
enable us to have the portable appimages that doesn't need installation or package management
21:21:37
@matthewcroughan:defenestrate.itmatthewcroughan - nix.zoneThis is just bad. There is no world in which I want Nix to lie about the system like that :D21:21:48
@matthewcroughan:defenestrate.itmatthewcroughan - nix.zone * This is just bad. There is no world in which I want Nix to lie about the system like that in marketing material, for example :D21:21:56
@matthewcroughan:defenestrate.itmatthewcroughan - nix.zone * Fancy website, no tech explanation attempted.21:22:53
@matthewcroughan:defenestrate.itmatthewcroughan - nix.zoneThe points made about the graphical package management, welcome-tour and stuff, very valid, and I think that's something Nix needs, for sure.21:23:57
@matthewcroughan:defenestrate.itmatthewcroughan - nix.zonehttps://www.reddit.com/r/NixOS/comments/o6807i/nixgui_work_in_progress_configure_your_system/21:24:38
@matthewcroughan:defenestrate.itmatthewcroughan - nix.zoneNix's primitives allow for something like this to exist. It just won't be possible to have rich control over the system without it.21:25:54
@matthewcroughan:defenestrate.itmatthewcroughan - nix.zoneflatpaks, appimages, docker, they don't change your dns settings. They don't configure systemd. They don't let you set much of anything on the system really.21:26:23
@matthewcroughan:defenestrate.itmatthewcroughan - nix.zoneReading through their docs, they have reinvented a lot of wheels.21:31:39
@matthewcroughan:defenestrate.itmatthewcroughan - nix.zoneAnd I do not see any mention of system management, which is the key distinction. They only talk about package management, they don't mention anything about configuring the system.21:32:22
@matthewcroughan:defenestrate.itmatthewcroughan - nix.zoneIf I understand correctly, they've made a tool that uses flatpak's tool, to manage flatpaks.. 21:45:28
@matthewcroughan:defenestrate.itmatthewcroughan - nix.zoneTheir "installer" logic seems quite interesting though, and I definitely want to do this myself for Nix.21:45:39
@matthewcroughan:defenestrate.itmatthewcroughan - nix.zone
roots:
    disk: # Path to root partiton /dev/sda1
    format: ext4
boot:
    mode: legacy # (uefi of UEFI system)
    path: /dev/sda # path of disk for bootloader and (efi partiton for UEFI)
    
system:
    version: 1614 # system version
    image: /run/iso/rootfs.img # path to rootfilesystem

roots:
disk: # Path to root partiton /dev/sda1
format: ext4
boot:
mode: legacy # (uefi of UEFI system)
path: /dev/sda # path of disk for bootloader and (efi partiton for UEFI)

system:
version: 1614 # system version
image: /run/iso/rootfs.img # path to rootfilesystem

21:45:55
@matthewcroughan:defenestrate.itmatthewcroughan - nix.zone *
roots:
    disk: # Path to root partiton /dev/sda1
    format: ext4
boot:
    mode: legacy # (uefi of UEFI system)
    path: /dev/sda # path of disk for bootloader and (efi partiton for UEFI)
    
system:
    version: 1614 # system version
    image: /run/iso/rootfs.img # path to rootfilesystem
21:46:01
@matthewcroughan:defenestrate.itmatthewcroughan - nix.zonehttps://docs.rlxos.dev/installation-1/installation#install-rlxos-with-commandline21:46:10
@matthewcroughan:defenestrate.itmatthewcroughan - nix.zone we do boot: in this comparison, but we don't do system: or roots: 21:47:05
@matthewcroughan:defenestrate.itmatthewcroughan - nix.zone I don't actually see a reason we can't do those, one time, passed to nixos-install. 21:47:18
30 Jun 2021
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5 Jul 2021
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