| 9 Aug 2021 |
 zupo | 👋 garbas | 12:53:02 |
| 10 Aug 2021 |
 Drakonis | garbas: hey not sure if this is the right place to ask, but is packagingcon going to use zoom or jitsi for presentations? | 19:51:34 |
| Drakonis | it is merely a tangentially related topic | 19:57:42 |
| 11 Aug 2021 |
 davidak | someone noticed our propaganda 😄
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64dBfUrpjCg | 04:54:44 |
| davidak | and more videos mean more attention for our project 🚀 | 04:55:15 |
 garbas | In reply to @zupo:matrix.org
👋 garbas hey!!! | 10:35:09 |
|  Arian joined the room. | 11:51:46 |
 tomberek | garbas: what can we do to help test/merge/deploy nixos-search/pull/320? | 15:41:34 |
| garbas | In reply to @tomberek:matrix.org
garbas: what can we do to help test/merge/deploy nixos-search/pull/320? find differences between preview and current search.nixos.org | 20:19:52 |
| garbas | I've looked finally at the PR today and still has some little things to be fixed, but generally it looks good | 20:23:47 |
| garbas | I already started looking at https://github.com/NixOS/nixos-search/pull/324 for the second part of the work that @ysndr did | 20:26:12 |
| 13 Aug 2021 |
|  evils joined the room. | 00:31:32 |
| evils | hi, i'm considering giving a talk about Nix(OS) next month
are there any guidelines about how to introduce the concepts to people
or recommended talking points? | 00:32:41 |
 jonringer | What's the target audience? | 00:34:29 |
| tomberek | there have been a few presentations: https://arianvp.github.io/nixtalk/slides/slides.html#(1) | 00:34:55 |
| tomberek | i gave one at GRCon (adapted from arian's): https://www.gnuradio.org/grcon/grcon18/presentations/GNU_Radio_Ecosystem_Management_with_Nix/7-GNURadio_ecosystem_management_with_Nix.pdf | 00:35:55 |
| tomberek | https://www.btbytes.com/nixos.html | 00:36:18 |
| evils | In reply to @jonringer:matrix.org
What's the target audience? whoever shows up to the local hackerspace's birthday
https://hackerspace.gent/landing/newline.php | 00:36:24 |
| jonringer | Generally the most notable talks are "here's how this tool solves a bunch a point points, and here's how it does it" | 00:36:46 |
| evils | unfortunately, i switched to nixos early enough in my linux journey that i don't know any of the pain points of other stuff :P | 00:37:34 |
| jonringer | For developers, I would at least include version controlled developer environments, which can be re-used to create containers or a NixOS module (system service). | 00:38:22 |
| evils | yea, nix-shell would definitely need to be covered
but i feel like there should be some preamble to that | 00:38:54 |
| evils | i'm also not sure if i should separate nix and NixOS | 00:39:13 |
| jonringer |
Instead of, run this docker container to perform the build, or install these 10 dependencies, you could also just do nix develop, and it will work on any linux machine
| 00:39:21 |
| jonringer | In general: nix/nixpkgs is user land, NixOS is system | 00:39:47 |
| tomberek | Yes, please make it clear that NixOS is "hey, this Nix thing worked, let's do this for my whole system", but is not really the core idea. I've also found the analogy to automatic memory management (from Eelco's thesis) to be a good one for some people. | 00:40:56 |
| evils | In reply to @tomberek:matrix.org
Yes, please make it clear that NixOS is "hey, this Nix thing worked, let's do this for my whole system", but is not really the core idea. I've also found the analogy to automatic memory management (from Eelco's thesis) to be a good one for some people. i've been hearing the inverse argument xD | 00:41:21 |
| jonringer | NixOS is... odd. Essentially it's just nix, with enough impurity to apply the changes to the system :/ | 00:41:36 |
| evils | (i am a NixOS user and maintainer) | 00:42:13 |
| jonringer | Idk, nix/nixos can be applied to so many things, it's really hard to give a "high-level overview" of what it does | 00:43:37 |
