| 30 Mar 2023 |
 @isaac.shapira:matrix.org | Théophane: | 16:12:25 |
| @isaac.shapira:matrix.org | * Théophane: whatever you have is appricated | 16:12:29 |
|  olaf left the room. | 17:36:31 |
 @nixinator:nixos.dev | In reply to @isaac.shapira:matrix.org
Théophane: Domenic just posted one on twitter . 9mind to two . | 17:36:34 |
| @nixinator:nixos.dev | * Domen just posted one on twitter . 9mind to two . | 17:36:43 |
| @nixinator:nixos.dev | * Domen just posted one on twitter . 9 mins to 2 . | 17:37:03 |
| @nixinator:nixos.dev | * Domen just posted one on twitter . 9 mins to 2 . , pretty good speed saving. | 17:37:21 |
| @nixinator:nixos.dev | Can someone where the phrase ‘ don’t be successful , at any cost’ comes from ? | 17:38:31 |
| @nixinator:nixos.dev | * Can someone tell where the phrase ‘ don’t be successful , at any cost’ comes from ? | 17:38:51 |
| @nixinator:nixos.dev | * Can someone tell where the phrase ‘ don’t be successful , at any cost’ comes from ? And what it means. | 17:39:00 |
 tomberek | Haskell | 17:38:56 |
| tomberek | "avoid success at all costs" | 17:39:01 |
| @nixinator:nixos.dev | Do you think that’s a good thing for a marketing team to strive for . | 17:39:35 |
| @nixinator:nixos.dev | * Do you think that’s a good thing for a marketing team to strive for . Lol. | 17:40:06 |
| @nixinator:nixos.dev | I think I know the sentiment … | 17:40:58 |
| @nixinator:nixos.dev | But maybe I don’t fully understand the context . | 17:41:17 |
| tomberek | In reply to @nixinator:nixos.dev
But maybe I don’t fully understand the context . https://youtu.be/re96UgMk6GQ?t=1383 | 17:43:29 |
| 31 Mar 2023 |
| @nixinator:nixos.dev | Ok, so for nix , do you think 20 years is enough to avoid success . | 02:57:23 |
 matthewcroughan - nix.how | Redacted or Malformed Event | 04:36:04 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.how | Whoops, wrong channel ;D | 04:46:44 |
| @nixinator:nixos.dev | In reply to @tomberek:matrix.org
https://youtu.be/re96UgMk6GQ?t=1383 Ok , I understand now it has been being being devekoped for 20 years, flakes change the game. It’s now time to upgrade this bit of philosophy from Haskell .I want nix to be successful no matter what the cost. | 07:39:02 |
| @nixinator:nixos.dev | The nixos marking faq says ‘we always avoid success’ as the terminator would say ‘WRONG’ | 07:41:38 |
| @nixinator:nixos.dev | * The nixos marking faq says ‘we always avoid success’ as the terminator would say ‘WRONG’ lol | 07:41:59 |
| @nixinator:nixos.dev | * Ok , I understand now it has been being developed for 20 years, flakes change the game. It’s now time to upgrade this bit of philosophy from Haskell .I want nix to be successful no matter what the cost. | 07:45:04 |
 Guillaume Desforges | In reply to @nixinator:nixos.dev
Ok , I understand now it has been being developed for 20 years, flakes change the game. It’s now time to upgrade this bit of philosophy from Haskell .I want nix to be successful no matter what the cost. I agree that Nix does not have to "avoid success at any cost". Unlike Haskell, Nix is very simple. We can look at code from 5, 10, 20 years from now and understand it/run it. Also it's not that much about research anymore. So Nix does not have the same issues and questions.
We can take what Nix is now and make it successful. | 07:48:59 |
| Guillaume Desforges | However, that might be different for NixOS. Would a symlink at /bin/bash make it more successful? I bet, yes. Is it the best solution? Many people argue it is not. Should we cut corners to facilitate adoption ? Maybe | 07:50:31 |
| Guillaume Desforges | In any case, as i understand, it's not about the tech. The marketing is about getting people into the adoption funnel and provide feedback on that funnel | 07:51:24 |
| Guillaume Desforges | * In any case, as i understand, it's not about the tech. The marketing is about getting people into the adoption funnel and provide feedback on that funnel to the other teams | 07:51:37 |
| Guillaume Desforges | (i can be corrected here) | 07:52:06 |
| @nixinator:nixos.dev | What I’ve been hearing in the field , you are essentially right. | 07:52:47 |
