| 23 Feb 2023 |
 evils | but condensing all the cool features of the Nix ecosystem down to a single page... | 17:26:34 |
| evils | clearly, we need this, but for getting started with Nix
https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/what_if_2_flowchart.png | 17:31:23 |
 davidak | FYI: the german linuxhotel offers courses for nix and nixos now
https://linuxhotel.social/@linuxhotel/109915288235813145
maybe we could promote commercial trainings on the website | 21:03:28 |
| davidak | i think their description of nix and nixos is in some ways better than our own on the website
NixOS is the largest GNU/Linux distribution in the world in terms of the number and up-to-date status of its installable packages, and made GitHub's Top10 (by contributors) for the first time in 2022.
End users enjoy easy access to about 80,000 packages whose package specifications are reproducible and portable, so that the same package can be installed on different operating systems.
(translated to english)
| 21:06:52 |
 hexa | teacher is tfc | 23:43:36 |
| hexa | * person teaching this course is tfc | 23:43:45 |
| 24 Feb 2023 |
 tea | Redacted or Malformed Event | 06:04:43 |
| 28 Feb 2023 |
|  @bootstrapper:matrix.org joined the room. | 05:42:55 |
| 1 Mar 2023 |
 tomberek | i guess i'm late??? | 20:34:43 |
 Bryan Honof | Oh my, no. I've just lost track of time. Me and garbas set up the streamyard for tomorrow though. | 20:40:45 |
 garbas | damn. i've fall asleep while putting kids to bed. You maybe still around? | 22:35:16 |
| 2 Mar 2023 |
 matthewcroughan - nix.zone | But you seem to have succeeded in putting yourself to bed, which is very important 😄 | 08:22:19 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | garbas: | 08:22:29 |
| garbas | :) | 08:22:53 |
| garbas | I'm sometimes wondering who is putting who to sleep | 08:23:09 |
| davidak | In reply to @davidak:matrix.org
FYI: the german linuxhotel offers courses for nix and nixos now
https://linuxhotel.social/@linuxhotel/109915288235813145
maybe we could promote commercial trainings on the website i created an issue for the topic https://github.com/NixOS/nixos-homepage/issues/998 | 11:20:36 |
 raitobezarius | for full transparency, I was planning to start commercial training in Paris, France on Nix/NixOS too | 13:31:48 |
| raitobezarius | I might announce something serious in 6-8 months because too much stuff going on in life | 13:32:12 |
| raitobezarius | (I also mentioned this to tfc during the last NixOS Ocean Sprint) | 13:32:34 |
|  jeremiahs joined the room. | 16:35:19 |
| jeremiahs | garbas: Thanks for adding me to the team! Looking forward to joining the next meeting. | 16:38:49 |
| jeremiahs | In reply to @evils:nixos.dev
clearly, we need this, but for getting started with Nix
https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/what_if_2_flowchart.png I've been working on some ideas with tom to make that look more like a straight line that branches out. | 16:47:00 |
| jeremiahs | I've been looking at what tools like docker and ansible do for their projects and comparing it to nix. Not on a technical level but more of a front facing execution level. | 19:53:32 |
| evils | In reply to @jeremiahs:matrix.org
I've been working on some ideas with tom to make that look more like a straight line that branches out. making it not look deliberately obfuscated? | 22:25:56 |
| evils | In reply to @jeremiahs:matrix.org
I've been looking at what tools like docker and ansible do for their projects and comparing it to nix. Not on a technical level but more of a front facing execution level. how do they stack up so far?
(i'm not familiar with "comparable" things) | 22:26:34 |
| jeremiahs | In reply to @evils:nixos.dev
how do they stack up so far?
(i'm not familiar with "comparable" things) Specifically comparing user experience, and other defining aspects of a tech project and what makes them successful. Then looking and seeing if nix is doing them, and in what capacity. | 22:32:00 |
| evils | my impression of other solutions in the problem domains Nix covers is that they're more niche
or at least, Nix is more general, it covers more problem domains
so the cost of learning Nix aught to be considered spread over the domains you solve problems in | 22:34:11 |
| evils | * my impression of other solutions in the problem domains Nix covers is that they're more niche
or at least, Nix is more general, it covers more problem domains
so the cost of learning Nix ought to be considered spread over the domains you solve problems in | 22:34:25 |
| evils | (i'm referring to the Nix ecosystem as a whole) | 22:35:52 |
| jeremiahs | In reply to @evils:nixos.dev
making it not look deliberately obfuscated? This is one of those aspects. Obfuscation can be good as long as we peel back the veil for new users. The other aspect is SEO. Having so much of learning how to package software be in the source code only is an issue. Take every mkderivation wrapper we have for every project. When someone searches for these the internet is often barren or fails to point the user in the right direction. | 22:36:10 |
